From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> Date: 2013-06-26 13:42:18
Looking at the 3.10 workqueue code, there's new code that adds
local_irq_disable() around places that call spin locks which will turn
into rt_mutexes for -rt. Reading the change log to why those
local_irq_*() calls were added, it seems to just be to synchronize with
synchronize_sched(). Talking with Tejun Heo, he may let me change those
to rcu_read_lock_sched() as that is a more appropriate API for the
purpose.
But that does not solve the -rt issue because even in -rt,
rcu_read_lock_sched() disables preemption, which brings us to the
purpose of this patch, to allow rcu_read_lock_sched() to preempt in -rt.
To allow rcu_read_lock_sched() sections to preempt in -rt, instead of
disabling preemption, it will grab a local_lock(). Then the
synchronize_sched() will grab all CPUs local_locks() and release them.
After that, it still does the normal synchronize_sched() as there may be
places that still disable preemption or irqs that it needs to
synchronize with. By grabbing all the locks and releasing them, it will
properly synchronize with those that use the locks instead of disabling
preemption or interrupts.
Note: The rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace() version still only disables
preemption, because they are used for lockdep and tracing, which require
real preemption disabling and not mutexes.
Signed-off-by: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Index: linux-rt.git/include/linux/rcupdate.h
===================================================================
@@ -910,7 +933,7 @@ static inline void rcu_read_unlock_sched"rcu_read_unlock_sched() used illegally while idle");rcu_lock_release(&rcu_sched_lock_map);__release(RCU_SCHED);-preempt_enable();+rcu_read_lock_sched_enable();}/* Used by lockdep and tracing: cannot be traced, cannot call lockdep. */
From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> Date: 2013-06-26 15:03:23
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 07:40 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 09:42:13AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
quoted
Looking at the 3.10 workqueue code, there's new code that adds
local_irq_disable() around places that call spin locks which will turn
into rt_mutexes for -rt. Reading the change log to why those
local_irq_*() calls were added, it seems to just be to synchronize with
synchronize_sched(). Talking with Tejun Heo, he may let me change those
to rcu_read_lock_sched() as that is a more appropriate API for the
purpose.
But that does not solve the -rt issue because even in -rt,
rcu_read_lock_sched() disables preemption, which brings us to the
purpose of this patch, to allow rcu_read_lock_sched() to preempt in -rt.
To allow rcu_read_lock_sched() sections to preempt in -rt, instead of
disabling preemption, it will grab a local_lock(). Then the
synchronize_sched() will grab all CPUs local_locks() and release them.
After that, it still does the normal synchronize_sched() as there may be
places that still disable preemption or irqs that it needs to
synchronize with. By grabbing all the locks and releasing them, it will
properly synchronize with those that use the locks instead of disabling
preemption or interrupts.
I tried this approach in early 2005, and testing did not go well:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/17/199
For one thing, a lock acquired both within and surrounding an
RCU-sched read-side critical section would result in deadlock.
Or have things changed so that this now somehow works?
Well, so far lockdep hasn't splatted on this. But that's not saying much
because I'm currently fighting the lockdep splats from other workqueue
related stuff.
Seems that Tejun really doesn't like us RT folks ;-)
-- Steve
From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> Date: 2013-06-26 15:05:06
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 11:03 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
quoted
I tried this approach in early 2005, and testing did not go well:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/17/199
For one thing, a lock acquired both within and surrounding an
RCU-sched read-side critical section would result in deadlock.
Or have things changed so that this now somehow works?
Well, so far lockdep hasn't splatted on this. But that's not saying much
because I'm currently fighting the lockdep splats from other workqueue
related stuff.
Seems that Tejun really doesn't like us RT folks ;-)
If there are issues, we could make a rcu_read_lock_sched_rt() which for
mainline will be rcu_read_lock_sched(), but for -rt will grab the lock.
That way we can pick and choose the locations that this is required.
-- Steve
From: Paul E. McKenney <hidden> Date: 2013-06-26 15:11:47
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 09:42:13AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
Looking at the 3.10 workqueue code, there's new code that adds
local_irq_disable() around places that call spin locks which will turn
into rt_mutexes for -rt. Reading the change log to why those
local_irq_*() calls were added, it seems to just be to synchronize with
synchronize_sched(). Talking with Tejun Heo, he may let me change those
to rcu_read_lock_sched() as that is a more appropriate API for the
purpose.
But that does not solve the -rt issue because even in -rt,
rcu_read_lock_sched() disables preemption, which brings us to the
purpose of this patch, to allow rcu_read_lock_sched() to preempt in -rt.
To allow rcu_read_lock_sched() sections to preempt in -rt, instead of
disabling preemption, it will grab a local_lock(). Then the
synchronize_sched() will grab all CPUs local_locks() and release them.
After that, it still does the normal synchronize_sched() as there may be
places that still disable preemption or irqs that it needs to
synchronize with. By grabbing all the locks and releasing them, it will
properly synchronize with those that use the locks instead of disabling
preemption or interrupts.
I tried this approach in early 2005, and testing did not go well:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/17/199
For one thing, a lock acquired both within and surrounding an
RCU-sched read-side critical section would result in deadlock.
Or have things changed so that this now somehow works?
Thanx, Paul
quoted hunk
Note: The rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace() version still only disables
preemption, because they are used for lockdep and tracing, which require
real preemption disabling and not mutexes.
Signed-off-by: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Index: linux-rt.git/include/linux/rcupdate.h
===================================================================
@@ -910,7 +933,7 @@ static inline void rcu_read_unlock_sched"rcu_read_unlock_sched() used illegally while idle");rcu_lock_release(&rcu_sched_lock_map);__release(RCU_SCHED);-preempt_enable();+rcu_read_lock_sched_enable();}/* Used by lockdep and tracing: cannot be traced, cannot call lockdep. */
From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> Date: 2013-06-26 17:40:13
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 11:05 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 11:03 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
quoted
quoted
I tried this approach in early 2005, and testing did not go well:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/17/199
For one thing, a lock acquired both within and surrounding an
RCU-sched read-side critical section would result in deadlock.
Or have things changed so that this now somehow works?
Well, so far lockdep hasn't splatted on this. But that's not saying much
because I'm currently fighting the lockdep splats from other workqueue
related stuff.
Seems that Tejun really doesn't like us RT folks ;-)
If there are issues, we could make a rcu_read_lock_sched_rt() which for
mainline will be rcu_read_lock_sched(), but for -rt will grab the lock.
That way we can pick and choose the locations that this is required.
I finally fixed the other issues and ran a full compile on this kernel.
No problems appeared yet, so maybe things have changed.
-- Steve