[linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

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[linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: P. van Gaans <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-12 12:25:25

Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with Kaffeine 
0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange problem. With my 
Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 euro), I can only switch 
without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I tune directly to position 3 it 
won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however is 
completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their switches 
possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 4/1 switch 
works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 all work 
perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it looks like a 7 
euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 17 euro Axing SPU 
41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of an 
expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what to do.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: Doru Marin <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-13 14:01:46

Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC commands or 
tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, H/V, 
etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with Kaffeine 
0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange problem. With my 
Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 euro), I can only switch 
without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I tune directly to position 3 it 
won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however is 
completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their switches 
possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 4/1 switch 
works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 all work 
perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it looks like a 7 
euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 17 euro Axing SPU 
41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of an 
expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what to do.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: P. van Gaans <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-13 20:21:31

On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC commands or 
tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, H/V, 
etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
quoted
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with Kaffeine 
0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange problem. With my 
Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 euro), I can only 
switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I tune directly to 
position 3 it won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however is 
completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their switches 
possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 4/1 switch 
works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 all work 
perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it looks like a 7 
euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 17 euro Axing SPU 
41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of an 
expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what to do.

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I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I tried 
upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a difference. The 
"scan" application has the same issues.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: P. van Gaans <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-16 00:20:58

On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
quoted
Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC commands or 
tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, H/V, 
etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
quoted
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with Kaffeine 
0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange problem. With my 
Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 euro), I can only 
switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I tune directly to 
position 3 it won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however is 
completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their switches 
possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 4/1 switch 
works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 all work 
perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it looks like a 7 
euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 17 euro Axing SPU 
41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of an 
expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what to do.

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I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I tried 
upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a difference. The 
"scan" application has the same issues.

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Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the 
difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was 
thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't 
think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos 3 
works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: P. van Gaans <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-18 12:48:45

On 02/16/2008 01:20 AM, P. van Gaans wrote:
On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
quoted
On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
quoted
Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC commands or 
tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, 
H/V, etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be 
more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
quoted
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with Kaffeine 
0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange problem. With my 
Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 euro), I can only 
switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I tune directly to 
position 3 it won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however 
is completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their 
switches possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 
4/1 switch works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 
all work perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it 
looks like a 7 euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 
17 euro Axing SPU 41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of 
an expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what to 
do.

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I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I tried 
upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a difference. The 
"scan" application has the same issues.

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Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the 
difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was 
thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't 
think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos 3 
works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.
I've figured out a bit more. If I tune directly to postion 3, I get pos
1. Whenever I tune to pos 4, I get pos 2.

I'll also ask people from Kaffeine as I'm not sure if the problem is in 
the application, driver or somewhere else.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: Doru Marin <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-18 13:05:38

P. van Gaans wrote:
On 02/16/2008 01:20 AM, P. van Gaans wrote:
  
quoted
On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
    
quoted
On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
      
quoted
Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC commands or 
tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, 
H/V, etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be 
more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
        
quoted
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with Kaffeine 
0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange problem. With my 
Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 euro), I can only 
switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I tune directly to 
position 3 it won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however 
is completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their 
switches possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 
4/1 switch works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 
all work perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it 
looks like a 7 euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 
17 euro Axing SPU 41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of 
an expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what to 
do.

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I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I tried 
upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a difference. The 
"scan" application has the same issues.

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Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the 
difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was 
thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't 
think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos 3 
works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.

    
I've figured out a bit more. If I tune directly to postion 3, I get pos
1. Whenever I tune to pos 4, I get pos 2.

I'll also ask people from Kaffeine as I'm not sure if the problem is in 
the application, driver or somewhere else.

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Hi,

Strange scenario. You're not saying anything about input types and the 
switch type. Are you sure that are properly connected ? How the switch 
inputs are marked and from where you got the input signals ? Please 
elaborate, if you want a proper answer.
I suggest to play with 'scandvb' from dvb-apps package instead of 
Kaffeine. Look into scanning results if the scanned channels match with 
what you wished to have on those positions.


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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: P. van Gaans <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-18 14:05:44

On 02/18/2008 02:04 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
P. van Gaans wrote:
quoted
On 02/16/2008 01:20 AM, P. van Gaans wrote:
 
quoted
On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
   
quoted
On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
     
quoted
Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC commands 
or tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, 
H/V, etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be 
more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
       
quoted
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with 
Kaffeine 0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange 
problem. With my Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 
euro), I can only switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I 
tune directly to position 3 it won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however 
is completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their 
switches possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 
4/1 switch works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 
all work perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it 
looks like a 7 euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 
17 euro Axing SPU 41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of 
an expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what 
to do.

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I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I tried 
upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a difference. The 
"scan" application has the same issues.

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Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the 
difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was 
thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't 
think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos 3 
works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.

    
I've figured out a bit more. If I tune directly to postion 3, I get pos
1. Whenever I tune to pos 4, I get pos 2.

I'll also ask people from Kaffeine as I'm not sure if the problem is 
in the application, driver or somewhere else.

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Hi,

Strange scenario. You're not saying anything about input types and the 
switch type. Are you sure that are properly connected ? How the switch 
inputs are marked and from where you got the input signals ? Please 
elaborate, if you want a proper answer.
I suggest to play with 'scandvb' from dvb-apps package instead of 
Kaffeine. Look into scanning results if the scanned channels match with 
what you wished to have on those positions.
Hi,

What do you mean with input type?

Anyway, this is my config:

Visiosat Bisat G3C for 19.2/28.2/23.5 + Triax 54cm for Hotbird
4 quad LNBs

Spaun SAR 411F:
A = Astra 19.2
B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
C = Astra 23.5
D = Hotbird

Maximum 4/1:
A = Astra 19.2
B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
C = Astra 23.5
D = Hotbird

All works fine on a standalone so it is connected correctly.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: Doru Marin <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-20 09:50:01

P. van Gaans wrote:
On 02/18/2008 02:04 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
  
quoted
P. van Gaans wrote:
    
quoted
On 02/16/2008 01:20 AM, P. van Gaans wrote:
 
      
quoted
On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
   
        
quoted
On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
     
          
quoted
Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC commands 
or tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, 
H/V, etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be 
more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
       
            
quoted
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with 
Kaffeine 0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange 
problem. With my Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 
euro), I can only switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If I 
tune directly to position 3 it won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try a 
channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 however 
is completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their 
switches possibly work in a different way, because a cheap Maximum 
4/1 switch works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 2, 3 and 4 
all work perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" indoors and it 
looks like a 7 euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also work fine, but a 
17 euro Axing SPU 41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much of 
an expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure what 
to do.

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I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I tried 
upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a difference. The 
"scan" application has the same issues.

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Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the 
difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was 
thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't 
think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos 3 
works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.

    
        
I've figured out a bit more. If I tune directly to postion 3, I get pos
1. Whenever I tune to pos 4, I get pos 2.

I'll also ask people from Kaffeine as I'm not sure if the problem is 
in the application, driver or somewhere else.

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Hi,

Strange scenario. You're not saying anything about input types and the 
switch type. Are you sure that are properly connected ? How the switch 
inputs are marked and from where you got the input signals ? Please 
elaborate, if you want a proper answer.
I suggest to play with 'scandvb' from dvb-apps package instead of 
Kaffeine. Look into scanning results if the scanned channels match with 
what you wished to have on those positions.

    
Hi,

What do you mean with input type?

Anyway, this is my config:

Visiosat Bisat G3C for 19.2/28.2/23.5 + Triax 54cm for Hotbird
4 quad LNBs

Spaun SAR 411F:
A = Astra 19.2
B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
C = Astra 23.5
D = Hotbird

Maximum 4/1:
A = Astra 19.2
B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
C = Astra 23.5
D = Hotbird

All works fine on a standalone so it is connected correctly.

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Hi,

Ok, If I understood you correctly, you're talking about only plain 
DiSEqC switch, with no polarity/tone management. Polarity and tone 
switching are done by LNB's.
Recently, I found a branded switch, which was unable to decode a DiSEqC 
commands while polarity was on horizontal (18V).
Maybe is the same situation, maybe not. That's why I asked you to check 
the polarity/tone settings of the channels while switching to a 
different channel on a different satellite.


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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: P. van Gaans <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-20 11:21:50

On 02/20/2008 10:48 AM, Doru Marin wrote:
P. van Gaans wrote:
quoted
On 02/18/2008 02:04 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
 
quoted
P. van Gaans wrote:
   
quoted
On 02/16/2008 01:20 AM, P. van Gaans wrote:
 
     
quoted
On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
          
quoted
On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
              
quoted
Hi,

Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC 
commands or tone/voltage changes ?
Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low, 
H/V, etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be 
more useful.

P. van Gaans wrote:
                  
quoted
Hi,

I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with 
Kaffeine 0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange 
problem. With my Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40 
euro), I can only switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If 
I tune directly to position 3 it won't lock.

However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try 
a channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4 
however is completely unreachable.

On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.

Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their 
switches possibly work in a different way, because a cheap 
Maximum 4/1 switch works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1, 
2, 3 and 4 all work perfectly. I also did some "dry testing" 
indoors and it looks like a 7 euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also 
work fine, but a 17 euro Axing SPU 41-02 probably won't.

I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much 
of an expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure 
what to do.

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I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I 
tried upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a 
difference. The "scan" application has the same issues.

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Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the 
difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was 
thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't 
think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos 
3 works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.

            
I've figured out a bit more. If I tune directly to postion 3, I get pos
1. Whenever I tune to pos 4, I get pos 2.

I'll also ask people from Kaffeine as I'm not sure if the problem is 
in the application, driver or somewhere else.

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Hi,

Strange scenario. You're not saying anything about input types and 
the switch type. Are you sure that are properly connected ? How the 
switch inputs are marked and from where you got the input signals ? 
Please elaborate, if you want a proper answer.
I suggest to play with 'scandvb' from dvb-apps package instead of 
Kaffeine. Look into scanning results if the scanned channels match 
with what you wished to have on those positions.

    
Hi,

What do you mean with input type?

Anyway, this is my config:

Visiosat Bisat G3C for 19.2/28.2/23.5 + Triax 54cm for Hotbird
4 quad LNBs

Spaun SAR 411F:
A = Astra 19.2
B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
C = Astra 23.5
D = Hotbird

Maximum 4/1:
A = Astra 19.2
B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
C = Astra 23.5
D = Hotbird

All works fine on a standalone so it is connected correctly.

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Hi,

Ok, If I understood you correctly, you're talking about only plain 
DiSEqC switch, with no polarity/tone management. Polarity and tone 
switching are done by LNB's.
Recently, I found a branded switch, which was unable to decode a DiSEqC 
commands while polarity was on horizontal (18V).
Maybe is the same situation, maybe not. That's why I asked you to check 
the polarity/tone settings of the channels while switching to a 
different channel on a different satellite.
That's right, no multiswitches or something like that. The last time I 
checked (a while ago), the Spaun was still completely working on my 
standalones. But as I figured out yesterday, something is wrong with 
that now. The standalones don't see D (Hotbird) anymore either. So I'm 
first going to fix that.

Trying to switch from Flaunt (V) to 4fun.tv (V) doesn't work either, so 
it's not the same problem I guess.

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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: Remy Bohmer <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-20 19:24:40

Hello All,

Maybe I have the answer:
I also had problems with switches and LNBs which did not want to work properly.
Behind 1 receiver it worked properly, but behind another 2 different
DVB-S PCI cards, it just failed. I never suspected the LNB/Switch
setup, because it worked behind another receiver.
But, In the end it turned out that there was 1 LNB in my setup that
caused all the trouble, that LNB refused to cooperate with the
switches and other LNBs, when a DVB-S PCI card was used (both
Technisat Skystar 1CI, and TT-S1500). Once switched to this LNB, the
complete setup failed to work from that moment on. I could never
switch back to 1 of the previous LNBs, but the last (buggy) LNB still
worked if I switched back to it.

So, my advice is to start with 1 LNB behind a switch, once it works,
add another one, check if both LNBs still works, if so, add another
LNB and so on. Maybe you end up, just like me, with 1 LNB that
destroys the complete behavior.

So, my 3 TT-S1500s are properly working here now with MythTv and
DiseqC switches with 4 LNBs per card/switch. So, it _can_ work...


Good luck!


Kind Regards,

Remy



2008/2/20, P. van Gaans [off-list ref]:
On 02/20/2008 10:48 AM, Doru Marin wrote:
 > P. van Gaans wrote:
 >> On 02/18/2008 02:04 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
 >>
 >>> P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> On 02/16/2008 01:20 AM, P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>> On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Hi,
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC
 >>>>>>> commands or tone/voltage changes ?
 >>>>>>> Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low,
 >>>>>>> H/V, etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be
 >>>>>>> more useful.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> Hi,
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with
 >>>>>>>> Kaffeine 0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange
 >>>>>>>> problem. With my Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40
 >>>>>>>> euro), I can only switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If
 >>>>>>>> I tune directly to position 3 it won't lock.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try
 >>>>>>>> a channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4
 >>>>>>>> however is completely unreachable.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their
 >>>>>>>> switches possibly work in a different way, because a cheap
 >>>>>>>> Maximum 4/1 switch works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1,
 >>>>>>>> 2, 3 and 4 all work perfectly. I also did some "dry testing"
 >>>>>>>> indoors and it looks like a 7 euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also
 >>>>>>>> work fine, but a 17 euro Axing SPU 41-02 probably won't.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much
 >>>>>>>> of an expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure
 >>>>>>>> what to do.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>>>>>> linux-dvb mailing list
 >>>>>>>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >>>>>>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>> I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I
 >>>>>> tried upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a
 >>>>>> difference. The "scan" application has the same issues.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>>>> linux-dvb mailing list
 >>>>>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >>>>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>> Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the
 >>>>> difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was
 >>>>> thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't
 >>>>> think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos
 >>>>> 3 works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>> I've figured out a bit more. If I tune directly to postion 3, I get pos
 >>>> 1. Whenever I tune to pos 4, I get pos 2.
 >>>>
 >>>> I'll also ask people from Kaffeine as I'm not sure if the problem is
 >>>> in the application, driver or somewhere else.
 >>>>
 >>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>> linux-dvb mailing list
 >>>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>>>
 >>> Hi,
 >>>
 >>> Strange scenario. You're not saying anything about input types and
 >>> the switch type. Are you sure that are properly connected ? How the
 >>> switch inputs are marked and from where you got the input signals ?
 >>> Please elaborate, if you want a proper answer.
 >>> I suggest to play with 'scandvb' from dvb-apps package instead of
 >>> Kaffeine. Look into scanning results if the scanned channels match
 >>> with what you wished to have on those positions.
 >>>
 >>>
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> What do you mean with input type?
 >>
 >> Anyway, this is my config:
 >>
 >> Visiosat Bisat G3C for 19.2/28.2/23.5 + Triax 54cm for Hotbird
 >> 4 quad LNBs
 >>
 >> Spaun SAR 411F:
 >> A = Astra 19.2
 >> B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
 >> C = Astra 23.5
 >> D = Hotbird
 >>
 >> Maximum 4/1:
 >> A = Astra 19.2
 >> B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
 >> C = Astra 23.5
 >> D = Hotbird
 >>
 >> All works fine on a standalone so it is connected correctly.
 >>
 >> _______________________________________________
 >> linux-dvb mailing list
 >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>
 > Hi,
 >
 > Ok, If I understood you correctly, you're talking about only plain
 > DiSEqC switch, with no polarity/tone management. Polarity and tone
 > switching are done by LNB's.
 > Recently, I found a branded switch, which was unable to decode a DiSEqC
 > commands while polarity was on horizontal (18V).
 > Maybe is the same situation, maybe not. That's why I asked you to check
 > the polarity/tone settings of the channels while switching to a
 > different channel on a different satellite.
 >


That's right, no multiswitches or something like that. The last time I
 checked (a while ago), the Spaun was still completely working on my
 standalones. But as I figured out yesterday, something is wrong with
 that now. The standalones don't see D (Hotbird) anymore either. So I'm
 first going to fix that.

 Trying to switch from Flaunt (V) to 4fun.tv (V) doesn't work either, so
 it's not the same problem I guess.


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 linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
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Re: [linux-dvb] DiSEqC trouble with TT S-1500

From: P. van Gaans <hidden>
Date: 2008-02-24 15:49:14

On 02/20/2008 08:24 PM, Remy Bohmer wrote:
Hello All,

Maybe I have the answer:
I also had problems with switches and LNBs which did not want to work properly.
Behind 1 receiver it worked properly, but behind another 2 different
DVB-S PCI cards, it just failed. I never suspected the LNB/Switch
setup, because it worked behind another receiver.
But, In the end it turned out that there was 1 LNB in my setup that
caused all the trouble, that LNB refused to cooperate with the
switches and other LNBs, when a DVB-S PCI card was used (both
Technisat Skystar 1CI, and TT-S1500). Once switched to this LNB, the
complete setup failed to work from that moment on. I could never
switch back to 1 of the previous LNBs, but the last (buggy) LNB still
worked if I switched back to it.

So, my advice is to start with 1 LNB behind a switch, once it works,
add another one, check if both LNBs still works, if so, add another
LNB and so on. Maybe you end up, just like me, with 1 LNB that
destroys the complete behavior.

So, my 3 TT-S1500s are properly working here now with MythTv and
DiseqC switches with 4 LNBs per card/switch. So, it _can_ work...


Good luck!


Kind Regards,

Remy



2008/2/20, P. van Gaans [off-list ref]:
quoted
On 02/20/2008 10:48 AM, Doru Marin wrote:
 > P. van Gaans wrote:
 >> On 02/18/2008 02:04 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
 >>
 >>> P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>
 >>>> On 02/16/2008 01:20 AM, P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>> On 02/13/2008 09:21 PM, P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> On 02/13/2008 03:01 PM, Doru Marin wrote:
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Hi,
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Can you explain how you select those 4 positions ? DiSEqC
 >>>>>>> commands or tone/voltage changes ?
 >>>>>>> Also can you determine the input type of those positions (Hi/Low,
 >>>>>>> H/V, etc) ? A scenario to see when and why that happens, would be
 >>>>>>> more useful.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> P. van Gaans wrote:
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> Hi,
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> I've got a Technotrend S-1500 (if it matters: I use it with
 >>>>>>>> Kaffeine 0.8.3). It works mostly fine, but there's a strange
 >>>>>>>> problem. With my Spaun 4/1 DiSEqC switch (they cost approx 25-40
 >>>>>>>> euro), I can only switch without trouble to position 1 and 2. If
 >>>>>>>> I tune directly to position 3 it won't lock.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> However, if I first tune to a channel on position 1 or 2 and try
 >>>>>>>> a channel on position 3 after that, it will work. Position 4
 >>>>>>>> however is completely unreachable.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> On a standalone receiver, there's no trouble with the same cable.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> Now Spaun is a really expensive and respected brand. So their
 >>>>>>>> switches possibly work in a different way, because a cheap
 >>>>>>>> Maximum 4/1 switch works perfectly with the S-1500. Position 1,
 >>>>>>>> 2, 3 and 4 all work perfectly. I also did some "dry testing"
 >>>>>>>> indoors and it looks like a 7 euro Satconn 4/1 switch would also
 >>>>>>>> work fine, but a 17 euro Axing SPU 41-02 probably won't.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> I'm guessing this could be solved in stv0299.c but I'm not much
 >>>>>>>> of an expert. I took a look at the code but I'm not really sure
 >>>>>>>> what to do.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>>>>>> linux-dvb mailing list
 >>>>>>>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >>>>>>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>> I select them with Kaffeine. Hi/low and H/V doesn't matter. I
 >>>>>> tried upgrading to Kaffeine 0.8.5 but that doesn't make a
 >>>>>> difference. The "scan" application has the same issues.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>>>> linux-dvb mailing list
 >>>>>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >>>>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>> Nobody any ideas? If not, does anybody have some idea what the
 >>>>> difference between position 1+2, pos 3 and pos 4 could be? I was
 >>>>> thinking 1 and 2 might be working because of toneburst, but I don't
 >>>>> think Kaffeine uses such a signal and that doesn't explain why pos
 >>>>> 3 works if first tuning to 1 or 2 and 4 doesn't work at all.
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>> I've figured out a bit more. If I tune directly to postion 3, I get pos
 >>>> 1. Whenever I tune to pos 4, I get pos 2.
 >>>>
 >>>> I'll also ask people from Kaffeine as I'm not sure if the problem is
 >>>> in the application, driver or somewhere else.
 >>>>
 >>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>> linux-dvb mailing list
 >>>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>>>
 >>> Hi,
 >>>
 >>> Strange scenario. You're not saying anything about input types and
 >>> the switch type. Are you sure that are properly connected ? How the
 >>> switch inputs are marked and from where you got the input signals ?
 >>> Please elaborate, if you want a proper answer.
 >>> I suggest to play with 'scandvb' from dvb-apps package instead of
 >>> Kaffeine. Look into scanning results if the scanned channels match
 >>> with what you wished to have on those positions.
 >>>
 >>>
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> What do you mean with input type?
 >>
 >> Anyway, this is my config:
 >>
 >> Visiosat Bisat G3C for 19.2/28.2/23.5 + Triax 54cm for Hotbird
 >> 4 quad LNBs
 >>
 >> Spaun SAR 411F:
 >> A = Astra 19.2
 >> B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
 >> C = Astra 23.5
 >> D = Hotbird
 >>
 >> Maximum 4/1:
 >> A = Astra 19.2
 >> B = Astra 28.2/Eurobird1
 >> C = Astra 23.5
 >> D = Hotbird
 >>
 >> All works fine on a standalone so it is connected correctly.
 >>
 >> _______________________________________________
 >> linux-dvb mailing list
 >> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
 >> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
 >>
 > Hi,
 >
 > Ok, If I understood you correctly, you're talking about only plain
 > DiSEqC switch, with no polarity/tone management. Polarity and tone
 > switching are done by LNB's.
 > Recently, I found a branded switch, which was unable to decode a DiSEqC
 > commands while polarity was on horizontal (18V).
 > Maybe is the same situation, maybe not. That's why I asked you to check
 > the polarity/tone settings of the channels while switching to a
 > different channel on a different satellite.
 >


That's right, no multiswitches or something like that. The last time I
 checked (a while ago), the Spaun was still completely working on my
 standalones. But as I figured out yesterday, something is wrong with
 that now. The standalones don't see D (Hotbird) anymore either. So I'm
 first going to fix that.

 Trying to switch from Flaunt (V) to 4fun.tv (V) doesn't work either, so
 it's not the same problem I guess.


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I've been on the roof. The cable from the Spaun switch to the Hotbird 
LNB was a mess. I've fixed it and now everything works.

Do note though, that Kaffeine 0.8.6 that sends diseqc commands twice is 
required for the Spaun/Axing switches to work correctly.

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