From: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com> Date: 2018-07-02 21:05:18
It's been a pretty good while since kernel modesetting was introduced.
It has almost entirely replaced previous solutions which required
userspace modesetting, and I can't even recall any drivers off the top
of my head for modern day hardware that don't only support one or the
other. Even nvidia's ugly blob does not require the use of nomodeset,
and only requires that nouveau be blacklisted.
Effectively, the only thing nomodeset does in the year 2018 is disable
your graphics drivers. Since VESA is a thing, this will give many users
the false impression that they've actually fixed an issue they were
having with their machine simply because the laptop will boot up to a
degraded GUI. This of course, is never actually the case.
Things get even worse when you consider that there's still an enormous
amount of tutorials users find on the internet that still suggest adding
nomodeset, along with various users who have been around long enough to
still suggest it.
There really isn't any legitimate reason I can see for this to be an
option that's used by anyone else other then developers, or properly
informed users. So, let's end the confusion and start printing warnings
whenever it's enabled.
Signed-off-by: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
---
drivers/video/console/vgacon.c | 5 +++++
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
@@ -112,6 +112,11 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(vgacon_text_force);staticint__inittext_mode(char*str){vgacon_text_mode_force=true;++pr_warning("You have booted with nomodeset. This means your GPU drivers are DISABLED\n");+pr_warning("Any video related functionality will be severely degraded, and you may not even be able to suspend the system properly\n");+pr_warning("Unless you actually understand what nomodeset does, you should reboot without enabling it\n");+return1;}
From: Daniel Vetter <hidden> Date: 2018-07-03 07:35:02
On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 05:04:40PM -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
It's been a pretty good while since kernel modesetting was introduced.
It has almost entirely replaced previous solutions which required
userspace modesetting, and I can't even recall any drivers off the top
of my head for modern day hardware that don't only support one or the
other. Even nvidia's ugly blob does not require the use of nomodeset,
and only requires that nouveau be blacklisted.
Effectively, the only thing nomodeset does in the year 2018 is disable
your graphics drivers. Since VESA is a thing, this will give many users
the false impression that they've actually fixed an issue they were
having with their machine simply because the laptop will boot up to a
degraded GUI. This of course, is never actually the case.
Things get even worse when you consider that there's still an enormous
amount of tutorials users find on the internet that still suggest adding
nomodeset, along with various users who have been around long enough to
still suggest it.
There really isn't any legitimate reason I can see for this to be an
option that's used by anyone else other then developers, or properly
informed users. So, let's end the confusion and start printing warnings
whenever it's enabled.
Signed-off-by: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
Yeah makes tons of sense. I think we should also perhaps mark the option
as a tainting one, but I think that's only wired up for module option.
Reviewed-by: Daniel Vetter <redacted>
@@ -112,6 +112,11 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(vgacon_text_force);staticint__inittext_mode(char*str){vgacon_text_mode_force=true;++pr_warning("You have booted with nomodeset. This means your GPU drivers are DISABLED\n");+pr_warning("Any video related functionality will be severely degraded, and you may not even be able to suspend the system properly\n");+pr_warning("Unless you actually understand what nomodeset does, you should reboot without enabling it\n");+return1;}
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From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com> Date: 2018-07-03 11:57:45
On Tue, 03 Jul 2018, Daniel Vetter [off-list ref] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 05:04:40PM -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
quoted
It's been a pretty good while since kernel modesetting was introduced.
It has almost entirely replaced previous solutions which required
userspace modesetting, and I can't even recall any drivers off the top
of my head for modern day hardware that don't only support one or the
other. Even nvidia's ugly blob does not require the use of nomodeset,
and only requires that nouveau be blacklisted.
Effectively, the only thing nomodeset does in the year 2018 is disable
your graphics drivers. Since VESA is a thing, this will give many users
the false impression that they've actually fixed an issue they were
having with their machine simply because the laptop will boot up to a
degraded GUI. This of course, is never actually the case.
Things get even worse when you consider that there's still an enormous
amount of tutorials users find on the internet that still suggest adding
nomodeset, along with various users who have been around long enough to
still suggest it.
There really isn't any legitimate reason I can see for this to be an
option that's used by anyone else other then developers, or properly
informed users. So, let's end the confusion and start printing warnings
whenever it's enabled.
Signed-off-by: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
Yeah makes tons of sense. I think we should also perhaps mark the option
as a tainting one, but I think that's only wired up for module option.
You could do that by adding
add_taint(TAINT_USER, LOCKDEP_STILL_OK);
in text_mode(). If you do that, you should probably amend the warning
message accordingly.
Either way,
Acked-by: Jani Nikula <redacted>
@@ -112,6 +112,11 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(vgacon_text_force);staticint__inittext_mode(char*str){vgacon_text_mode_force=true;++pr_warning("You have booted with nomodeset. This means your GPU drivers are DISABLED\n");+pr_warning("Any video related functionality will be severely degraded, and you may not even be able to suspend the system properly\n");+pr_warning("Unless you actually understand what nomodeset does, you should reboot without enabling it\n");+return1;}
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On Monday, July 02, 2018 05:04:40 PM Lyude Paul wrote:
It's been a pretty good while since kernel modesetting was introduced.
It has almost entirely replaced previous solutions which required
userspace modesetting, and I can't even recall any drivers off the top
of my head for modern day hardware that don't only support one or the
other. Even nvidia's ugly blob does not require the use of nomodeset,
and only requires that nouveau be blacklisted.
Effectively, the only thing nomodeset does in the year 2018 is disable
your graphics drivers. Since VESA is a thing, this will give many users
the false impression that they've actually fixed an issue they were
having with their machine simply because the laptop will boot up to a
degraded GUI. This of course, is never actually the case.
Things get even worse when you consider that there's still an enormous
amount of tutorials users find on the internet that still suggest adding
nomodeset, along with various users who have been around long enough to
still suggest it.
There really isn't any legitimate reason I can see for this to be an
option that's used by anyone else other then developers, or properly
informed users. So, let's end the confusion and start printing warnings
whenever it's enabled.
Signed-off-by: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
Patch queued for 4.19, thanks.
Best regards,
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Samsung R&D Institute Poland
Samsung Electronics