I test mmp function as follow steps:
1. Inject delay 5s in ext4_multi_mount_protect function after
"skip:" label.
2. Share HostA block device(sda) with HostB(nbd0) by NBD.
3. Enable mmp feature when mkfs.ext4 sda.
4. Mount sda and nbd0 at the same time.
I found kmmpd never trigger detect multi-mount. Reason is as follow:
1. Kmmpd init seq with 0, if two host have same nodename, will lead to
detect confliction very slow, even never detect confliction.
2. When detect confliction in kmmpd, we get 'check_bh' is same with 'bh'.
so we compare data with itself.
3. We only trigger detect when ”diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ“,
'mmp_check_interval' is double of 'mmp_update_interval', 'diff' is
about 'mmp_update_interval'. So 'diff' is little than 'mmp_check_interval * HZ'
normaly.
And i also found that 'check_interval' value store in disk is not sure
after umount.
v1->v2:
Fix 'last_check_time' not initialized before checking.
Ye Bin (6):
ext4: init seq with random value in kmmpd
ext4: introduce last_check_time record previous check time
ext4: compare to local seq and nodename when check conflict
ext4: avoid to re-read mmp check data get from page cache
ext4: avoid to double free s_mmp_bh
ext4: fix possible store wrong check interval value in disk when
umount
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------------
1 file changed, 43 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-)
--
2.31.1
If two host has the same nodename, and seq start from 0, May cause the
detection mechanism to fail.
So init seq with random value to accelerate conflict detection.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++----------------
1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 14 +++++++++-----
1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
If call read_mmp_block failed then s_mmp_bh will be freed in read_mmp_block.
Kmmpd wait to be killed, ext4_stop_mmpd stop kmmpd and also release s_mmp_bh.
To avoid double free, just set EXT4_SB(sb)->s_mmp_bh with NULL.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 1 +
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
As mmp and check_mmp is point to the same data, so there will never
detect conflict.
To solve this issue just compare to local data.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 9 +++++----
1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
As call read_mmp_block pass bh_check which value is NULL, then call
sb_getblk to get buffer_head. But mmp_block's buffer_head is already exist
which also is uptodate. Lead to compare the same data.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 17 ++++++-----------
1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
@@ -224,20 +221,18 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)gotowait_to_exit;}-mmp_check=(structmmp_struct*)(bh_check->b_data);-if(seq!=mmp_check->mmp_seq||-memcmp(nodename,mmp_check->mmp_nodename,-sizeof(mmp->mmp_nodename))){-dump_mmp_msg(sb,mmp_check,+mmp=(structmmp_struct*)(bh->b_data);+if(seq!=le32_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_seq)||+memcmp(nodename,mmp->mmp_nodename,+sizeof(nodename))){+dump_mmp_msg(sb,mmp,"Error while updating MMP info. ""The filesystem seems to have been"" multiply mounted.");ext4_error_err(sb,EBUSY,"abort");-put_bh(bh_check);retval=-EBUSY;gotowait_to_exit;}-put_bh(bh_check);last_check_time=jiffies;}
Test follow steps:
1. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda -O mmp
2. mount /dev/sda /mnt
3. wait for about 1 minute
4. umount mnt
5. debugfs /dev/sda
6. dump_mmp
7. fsck.ext4 /dev/sda
I found 'check_interval' is range in [5, 10]. And sometime run fsck
print "MMP interval is 10 seconds and total wait time is 42 seconds.
Please wait...".
kmmpd:
...
if (diff < mmp_update_interval * HZ)
schedule_timeout_interruptible(mmp_update_interval * HZ - diff);
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
...
mmp_check_interval = max(min(EXT4_MMP_CHECK_MULT * diff / HZ,
EXT4_MMP_MAX_CHECK_INTERVAL),
EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL);
mmp->mmp_check_interval = cpu_to_le16(mmp_check_interval);
...
We will call ext4_stop_mmpd to stop kmmpd kthread when umount, and
schedule_timeout_interruptible will be interrupted, so 'diff' maybe
little than mmp_update_interval. Then mmp_check_interval will range
in [EXT4_MMP_MAX_CHECK_INTERVAL, EXT4_MMP_CHECK_MULT * diff / HZ].
To solve this issue, if 'diff' little then mmp_update_interval * HZ
just break loop, don't update check interval.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 8 ++++++++
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> Date: 2021-10-07 12:26:11
On Sat 11-09-21 17:00:54, Ye Bin wrote:
If two host has the same nodename, and seq start from 0, May cause the
detection mechanism to fail.
So init seq with random value to accelerate conflict detection.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
Thanks for the patch. I agree the code in kmmpd looks suspicious. The
sequence number is initialized to a random number in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() which is called before kmmpd is started. I think
kmmpd() should initialize its 'seq' to a number fetched from the mmp
block, instead of 0 as is currently in the code. I don't think generating a
new random number as you do is really needed...
Honza
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> Date: 2021-10-07 12:31:06
On Sat 11-09-21 17:00:55, Ye Bin wrote:
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
I think the check is there only for the case where write_mmp_block() +
sleep took longer than mmp_check_interval. I agree that should rarely
happen but on a really busy system it is possible and in that case we would
miss updating mmp block for too long and so another node could have started
using the filesystem. I actually don't see a reason why kmmpd should be
checking the block each mmp_check_interval as you do - mmp_check_interval
is just for ext4_multi_mount_protect() to know how long it should wait
before considering mmp block stale... Am I missing something?
Honza
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> Date: 2021-10-07 12:36:27
On Sat 11-09-21 17:00:56, Ye Bin wrote:
As mmp and check_mmp is point to the same data, so there will never
detect conflict.
To solve this issue just compare to local data.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
@@ -154,6 +154,7 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)unsignedlonglast_update_time;unsignedlonglast_check_time;unsignedlongdiff;+charnodename[64];
Perhaps define a constant for the length of nodename and use it here as
well as in the declaration of mmp_struct->mmp_nodename?
Honza
--
Jan Kara [off-list ref]
SUSE Labs, CR
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> Date: 2021-10-07 12:44:29
On Sat 11-09-21 17:00:57, Ye Bin wrote:
As call read_mmp_block pass bh_check which value is NULL, then call
sb_getblk to get buffer_head. But mmp_block's buffer_head is already exist
which also is uptodate. Lead to compare the same data.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
This looks good, except that read_mmp_block() also releases bh it is passed
in case of error. So it can free buffer head which is still referenced from
EXT4_SB(sb)->s_mmp_bh and cause use-after-free issues.
I guess I would just get rid of sb_getblk() in read_mmp_block() and always
expect valid bh passed. The only place that passes NULL bh after this
patch is one case in ext4_multi_mount_protect() and that can call
sb_getblk() on its own. That way we can also simplify read_mmp_block()
prototype to:
static int read_mmp_block(struct super_block *sb, struct buffer_head *bh);
Honza
@@ -224,20 +221,18 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)gotowait_to_exit;}-mmp_check=(structmmp_struct*)(bh_check->b_data);-if(seq!=mmp_check->mmp_seq||-memcmp(nodename,mmp_check->mmp_nodename,-sizeof(mmp->mmp_nodename))){-dump_mmp_msg(sb,mmp_check,+mmp=(structmmp_struct*)(bh->b_data);+if(seq!=le32_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_seq)||+memcmp(nodename,mmp->mmp_nodename,+sizeof(nodename))){+dump_mmp_msg(sb,mmp,"Error while updating MMP info. ""The filesystem seems to have been"" multiply mounted.");ext4_error_err(sb,EBUSY,"abort");-put_bh(bh_check);retval=-EBUSY;gotowait_to_exit;}-put_bh(bh_check);last_check_time=jiffies;}
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> Date: 2021-10-07 13:12:13
On Sat 11-09-21 17:00:59, Ye Bin wrote:
quoted hunk
Test follow steps:
1. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda -O mmp
2. mount /dev/sda /mnt
3. wait for about 1 minute
4. umount mnt
5. debugfs /dev/sda
6. dump_mmp
7. fsck.ext4 /dev/sda
I found 'check_interval' is range in [5, 10]. And sometime run fsck
print "MMP interval is 10 seconds and total wait time is 42 seconds.
Please wait...".
kmmpd:
...
if (diff < mmp_update_interval * HZ)
schedule_timeout_interruptible(mmp_update_interval * HZ - diff);
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
...
mmp_check_interval = max(min(EXT4_MMP_CHECK_MULT * diff / HZ,
EXT4_MMP_MAX_CHECK_INTERVAL),
EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL);
mmp->mmp_check_interval = cpu_to_le16(mmp_check_interval);
...
We will call ext4_stop_mmpd to stop kmmpd kthread when umount, and
schedule_timeout_interruptible will be interrupted, so 'diff' maybe
little than mmp_update_interval. Then mmp_check_interval will range
in [EXT4_MMP_MAX_CHECK_INTERVAL, EXT4_MMP_CHECK_MULT * diff / HZ].
To solve this issue, if 'diff' little then mmp_update_interval * HZ
just break loop, don't update check interval.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 8 ++++++++
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
@@ -205,6 +205,14 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)schedule_timeout_interruptible(mmp_update_interval*HZ-diff);diff=jiffies-last_update_time;+/* If 'diff' little 'than mmp_update_interval * HZ', it+*meanssomeonecallext4_stop_mmpdtostopkmmpd+*kthread.Wedon'tneedtoupdatemmp_check_interval+*anymore,as'diff'isnotexactvalue.+*/+if(unlikely(diff<mmp_update_interval*HZ&&+kthread_should_stop()))+break;}
So in this case, mmp_check_interval would be EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL. I
don't quite understand what the practical problem is - the fsck message?
That will happen anytime mmp_check_interval is >= 10 AFAICT and I don't
quite see how that is connected to this condition... Can you explain a bit
more please?
Honza
--
Jan Kara [off-list ref]
SUSE Labs, CR
If two host has the same nodename, and seq start from 0, May cause the
detection mechanism to fail.
So init seq with random value to accelerate conflict detection.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
Thanks for the patch. I agree the code in kmmpd looks suspicious. The
sequence number is initialized to a random number in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() which is called before kmmpd is started. I think
kmmpd() should initialize its 'seq' to a number fetched from the mmp
block, instead of 0 as is currently in the code. I don't think generating a
new random number as you do is really needed...
Honza
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
I think the check is there only for the case where write_mmp_block() +
sleep took longer than mmp_check_interval. I agree that should rarely
happen but on a really busy system it is possible and in that case we would
miss updating mmp block for too long and so another node could have started
using the filesystem. I actually don't see a reason why kmmpd should be
checking the block each mmp_check_interval as you do - mmp_check_interval
is just for ext4_multi_mount_protect() to know how long it should wait
before considering mmp block stale... Am I missing something?
Honza
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the detection mechanism here before. Now
I understand
the detection mechanism here.
As you said, it's just an abnormal protection. There's really no problem.
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
I think the check is there only for the case where write_mmp_block() +
sleep took longer than mmp_check_interval. I agree that should rarely
happen but on a really busy system it is possible and in that case we
would
miss updating mmp block for too long and so another node could have
started
using the filesystem. I actually don't see a reason why kmmpd should be
checking the block each mmp_check_interval as you do -
mmp_check_interval
is just for ext4_multi_mount_protect() to know how long it should wait
before considering mmp block stale... Am I missing something?
Honza
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the detection mechanism here before.
Now I understand
the detection mechanism here.
As you said, it's just an abnormal protection. There's really no problem.
Yeah, i did test as following steps
hostA hostB
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
delay 5s after label "skip" so hostB will see seq is
EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq ==
EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
run kmmpd
run kmmpd
Actually,in this situation kmmpd will not detect confliction.
In ext4_multi_mount_protect function we write mmp data fisrt and wait
'wait_time * HZ' seconds,
read mmp data do check.Most of the time, If 'wait_time' is zero, it can
pass check.
@@ -152,6 +152,7 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)intmmp_update_interval=le16_to_cpu(es->s_mmp_update_interval);unsignedmmp_check_interval;unsignedlonglast_update_time;+unsignedlonglast_check_time;unsignedlongdiff;intretval=0;@@-170,6+171,7@@staticintkmmpd(void*data)memcpy(mmp->mmp_nodename,init_utsname()->nodename,sizeof(mmp->mmp_nodename));+last_check_time=jiffies;while(!kthread_should_stop()&&!sb_rdonly(sb)){if(!ext4_has_feature_mmp(sb)){
@@ -198,17 +200,18 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)}diff=jiffies-last_update_time;-if(diff<mmp_update_interval*HZ)+if(diff<mmp_update_interval*HZ){
schedule_timeout_interruptible(mmp_update_interval *
HZ - diff);
+ diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
+ }
/*
* We need to make sure that more than mmp_check_interval
- * seconds have not passed since writing. If that has happened
- * we need to check if the MMP block is as we left it.
+ * seconds have not passed since check. If that has happened
+ * we need to check if the MMP block is as we write it.
*/
- diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
- if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
+ if (jiffies - last_check_time > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
struct buffer_head *bh_check = NULL;
struct mmp_struct *mmp_check;
@@ -234,6 +237,7 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)
goto wait_to_exit;
}
put_bh(bh_check);
+ last_check_time = jiffies;
}
/*
--
2.31.1
Test follow steps:
1. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda -O mmp
2. mount /dev/sda /mnt
3. wait for about 1 minute
4. umount mnt
5. debugfs /dev/sda
6. dump_mmp
7. fsck.ext4 /dev/sda
I found 'check_interval' is range in [5, 10]. And sometime run fsck
print "MMP interval is 10 seconds and total wait time is 42 seconds.
Please wait...".
kmmpd:
...
if (diff < mmp_update_interval * HZ)
schedule_timeout_interruptible(mmp_update_interval * HZ - diff);
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
...
mmp_check_interval = max(min(EXT4_MMP_CHECK_MULT * diff / HZ,
EXT4_MMP_MAX_CHECK_INTERVAL),
EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL);
mmp->mmp_check_interval = cpu_to_le16(mmp_check_interval);
...
We will call ext4_stop_mmpd to stop kmmpd kthread when umount, and
schedule_timeout_interruptible will be interrupted, so 'diff' maybe
little than mmp_update_interval. Then mmp_check_interval will range
in [EXT4_MMP_MAX_CHECK_INTERVAL, EXT4_MMP_CHECK_MULT * diff / HZ].
To solve this issue, if 'diff' little then mmp_update_interval * HZ
just break loop, don't update check interval.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
---
fs/ext4/mmp.c | 8 ++++++++
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
@@ -205,6 +205,14 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)schedule_timeout_interruptible(mmp_update_interval*HZ-diff);diff=jiffies-last_update_time;+/* If 'diff' little 'than mmp_update_interval * HZ', it+*meanssomeonecallext4_stop_mmpdtostopkmmpd+*kthread.Wedon'tneedtoupdatemmp_check_interval+*anymore,as'diff'isnotexactvalue.+*/+if(unlikely(diff<mmp_update_interval*HZ&&+kthread_should_stop()))+break;}
So in this case, mmp_check_interval would be EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL. I
don't quite understand what the practical problem is - the fsck message?
That will happen anytime mmp_check_interval is >= 10 AFAICT and I don't
quite see how that is connected to this condition... Can you explain a bit
more please?
Honza
I just think 'mmp_check_interval' is not reflect real check interval,
and also sometime run fsck
print "MMP interval is 10 seconds and total wait time is 42 seconds.
Please wait...", but
sometime not.
As call read_mmp_block pass bh_check which value is NULL, then call
sb_getblk to get buffer_head. But mmp_block's buffer_head is already exist
which also is uptodate. Lead to compare the same data.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
This looks good, except that read_mmp_block() also releases bh it is passed
in case of error. So it can free buffer head which is still referenced from
EXT4_SB(sb)->s_mmp_bh and cause use-after-free issues.
I guess I would just get rid of sb_getblk() in read_mmp_block() and always
expect valid bh passed. The only place that passes NULL bh after this
patch is one case in ext4_multi_mount_protect() and that can call
sb_getblk() on its own. That way we can also simplify read_mmp_block()
prototype to:
static int read_mmp_block(struct super_block *sb, struct buffer_head *bh);
Honza
Yeah, I will refactor 'read_mmp_block'.
@@ -224,20 +221,18 @@ static int kmmpd(void *data)gotowait_to_exit;}-mmp_check=(structmmp_struct*)(bh_check->b_data);-if(seq!=mmp_check->mmp_seq||-memcmp(nodename,mmp_check->mmp_nodename,-sizeof(mmp->mmp_nodename))){-dump_mmp_msg(sb,mmp_check,+mmp=(structmmp_struct*)(bh->b_data);+if(seq!=le32_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_seq)||+memcmp(nodename,mmp->mmp_nodename,+sizeof(nodename))){+dump_mmp_msg(sb,mmp,"Error while updating MMP info. ""The filesystem seems to have been"" multiply mounted.");ext4_error_err(sb,EBUSY,"abort");-put_bh(bh_check);retval=-EBUSY;gotowait_to_exit;}-put_bh(bh_check);last_check_time=jiffies;}
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> Date: 2021-10-12 08:47:32
On Fri 08-10-21 10:38:31, yebin wrote:
On 2021/10/8 9:56, yebin wrote:
quoted
On 2021/10/7 20:31, Jan Kara wrote:
quoted
On Sat 11-09-21 17:00:55, Ye Bin wrote:
quoted
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
I think the check is there only for the case where write_mmp_block() +
sleep took longer than mmp_check_interval. I agree that should rarely
happen but on a really busy system it is possible and in that case
we would
miss updating mmp block for too long and so another node could have
started
using the filesystem. I actually don't see a reason why kmmpd should be
checking the block each mmp_check_interval as you do -
mmp_check_interval
is just for ext4_multi_mount_protect() to know how long it should wait
before considering mmp block stale... Am I missing something?
Honza
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the detection mechanism here before. Now
I understand
the detection mechanism here.
As you said, it's just an abnormal protection. There's really no problem.
Yeah, i did test as following steps
hostA hostB
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
delay 5s after label "skip" so hostB will see seq is
EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
run kmmpd
run kmmpd
Actually,in this situation kmmpd will not detect confliction.
In ext4_multi_mount_protect function we write mmp data first and wait
'wait_time * HZ' seconds,
read mmp data do check. Most of the time, If 'wait_time' is zero, it can pass
check.
But how can be wait_time zero? As far as I'm reading the code, wait_time
must be at least EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL...
Honza
--
Jan Kara [off-list ref]
SUSE Labs, CR
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
I think the check is there only for the case where write_mmp_block() +
sleep took longer than mmp_check_interval. I agree that should rarely
happen but on a really busy system it is possible and in that case
we would
miss updating mmp block for too long and so another node could have
started
using the filesystem. I actually don't see a reason why kmmpd should be
checking the block each mmp_check_interval as you do -
mmp_check_interval
is just for ext4_multi_mount_protect() to know how long it should wait
before considering mmp block stale... Am I missing something?
Honza
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the detection mechanism here before. Now
I understand
the detection mechanism here.
As you said, it's just an abnormal protection. There's really no problem.
Yeah, i did test as following steps
hostA hostB
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
delay 5s after label "skip" so hostB will see seq is
EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
run kmmpd
run kmmpd
Actually,in this situation kmmpd will not detect confliction.
In ext4_multi_mount_protect function we write mmp data first and wait
'wait_time * HZ' seconds,
read mmp data do check. Most of the time, If 'wait_time' is zero, it can pass
check.
But how can be wait_time zero? As far as I'm reading the code, wait_time
must be at least EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL...
Honza
int ext4_multi_mount_protect(struct super_block *sb,
ext4_fsblk_t mmp_block)
{
struct ext4_super_block *es = EXT4_SB(sb)->s_es;
struct buffer_head *bh = NULL;
struct mmp_struct *mmp = NULL;
u32 seq;
unsigned int mmp_check_interval =
le16_to_cpu(es->s_mmp_update_interval);
unsigned int wait_time = 0; --> wait_time
is equal with zero
int retval;
if (mmp_block < le32_to_cpu(es->s_first_data_block) ||
mmp_block >= ext4_blocks_count(es)) {
ext4_warning(sb, "Invalid MMP block in superblock");
goto failed;
}
retval = read_mmp_block(sb, &bh, mmp_block);
if (retval)
goto failed;
mmp = (struct mmp_struct *)(bh->b_data);
if (mmp_check_interval < EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL)
mmp_check_interval = EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL;
/*
* If check_interval in MMP block is larger, use that instead of
* update_interval from the superblock.
*/
if (le16_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_check_interval) > mmp_check_interval)
mmp_check_interval = le16_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_check_interval);
seq = le32_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_seq);
if (seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN) --> If hostA and hostB mount
the same block device at the same time,
--> HostA and hostB maybe get 'seq' with the same value
EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN.
goto skip;
...
skip:
/*
* write a new random sequence number.
*/
seq = mmp_new_seq();
mmp->mmp_seq = cpu_to_le32(seq);
retval = write_mmp_block(sb, bh);
if (retval)
goto failed;
/*
* wait for MMP interval and check mmp_seq.
*/
if (schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ * wait_time) != 0)
{ --> If seq is equal with EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN, wait_time is zero.
ext4_warning(sb, "MMP startup interrupted, failing mount");
goto failed;
}
retval = read_mmp_block(sb, &bh, mmp_block); -->We may get the
same data with which we wrote, so we can't detect conflict at here.
if (retval)
goto failed;
mmp = (struct mmp_struct *)(bh->b_data);
if (seq != le32_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_seq)) {
dump_mmp_msg(sb, mmp,
"Device is already active on another node.");
goto failed;
}
...
}
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> Date: 2021-10-13 09:38:52
On Tue 12-10-21 19:46:24, yebin wrote:
On 2021/10/12 16:47, Jan Kara wrote:
quoted
On Fri 08-10-21 10:38:31, yebin wrote:
quoted
On 2021/10/8 9:56, yebin wrote:
quoted
On 2021/10/7 20:31, Jan Kara wrote:
quoted
On Sat 11-09-21 17:00:55, Ye Bin wrote:
quoted
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
I think the check is there only for the case where write_mmp_block() +
sleep took longer than mmp_check_interval. I agree that should rarely
happen but on a really busy system it is possible and in that case
we would
miss updating mmp block for too long and so another node could have
started
using the filesystem. I actually don't see a reason why kmmpd should be
checking the block each mmp_check_interval as you do -
mmp_check_interval
is just for ext4_multi_mount_protect() to know how long it should wait
before considering mmp block stale... Am I missing something?
Honza
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the detection mechanism here before. Now
I understand
the detection mechanism here.
As you said, it's just an abnormal protection. There's really no problem.
Yeah, i did test as following steps
hostA hostB
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
delay 5s after label "skip" so hostB will see seq is
EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
run kmmpd
run kmmpd
Actually,in this situation kmmpd will not detect confliction.
In ext4_multi_mount_protect function we write mmp data first and wait
'wait_time * HZ' seconds,
read mmp data do check. Most of the time, If 'wait_time' is zero, it can pass
check.
But how can be wait_time zero? As far as I'm reading the code, wait_time
must be at least EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL...
Honza
int ext4_multi_mount_protect(struct super_block *sb,
ext4_fsblk_t mmp_block)
{
struct ext4_super_block *es = EXT4_SB(sb)->s_es;
struct buffer_head *bh = NULL;
struct mmp_struct *mmp = NULL;
u32 seq;
unsigned int mmp_check_interval =
le16_to_cpu(es->s_mmp_update_interval);
unsigned int wait_time = 0; --> wait_time is
equal with zero
int retval;
if (mmp_block < le32_to_cpu(es->s_first_data_block) ||
mmp_block >= ext4_blocks_count(es)) {
ext4_warning(sb, "Invalid MMP block in superblock");
goto failed;
}
retval = read_mmp_block(sb, &bh, mmp_block);
if (retval)
goto failed;
mmp = (struct mmp_struct *)(bh->b_data);
if (mmp_check_interval < EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL)
mmp_check_interval = EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL;
/*
* If check_interval in MMP block is larger, use that instead of
* update_interval from the superblock.
*/
if (le16_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_check_interval) > mmp_check_interval)
mmp_check_interval = le16_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_check_interval);
seq = le32_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_seq);
if (seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN) --> If hostA and hostB mount the
same block device at the same time,
--> HostA and hostB maybe get 'seq' with the same value EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN.
goto skip;
Oh, I see. Thanks for explanation.
...
skip:
/*
* write a new random sequence number.
*/
seq = mmp_new_seq();
mmp->mmp_seq = cpu_to_le32(seq);
retval = write_mmp_block(sb, bh);
if (retval)
goto failed;
/*
* wait for MMP interval and check mmp_seq.
*/
if (schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ * wait_time) != 0) {
--> If seq is equal with EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN, wait_time is zero.
ext4_warning(sb, "MMP startup interrupted, failing mount");
goto failed;
}
retval = read_mmp_block(sb, &bh, mmp_block); -->We may get the same
data with which we wrote, so we can't detect conflict at here.
OK, I see. So the race in ext4_multi_mount_protect() goes like:
hostA hostB
read_mmp_block() read_mmp_block()
- sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN - sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
Do I get it right? Actually, if we passed seq we wrote in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() to kmmpd (probably in sb), then kmmpd would
notice the conflict on its first invocation but still that would be a bit
late because there would be a time window where hostA and hostB would be
both using the fs.
We could reduce the likelyhood of this race by always waiting in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() between write & read but I guess that is
undesirable as it would slow down all clean mounts. Ted?
Honza
--
Jan Kara [off-list ref]
SUSE Labs, CR
kmmpd:
...
diff = jiffies - last_update_time;
if (diff > mmp_check_interval * HZ) {
...
As "mmp_check_interval = 2 * mmp_update_interval", 'diff' always little
than 'mmp_update_interval', so there will never trigger detection.
Introduce last_check_time record previous check time.
Signed-off-by: Ye Bin <redacted>
I think the check is there only for the case where write_mmp_block() +
sleep took longer than mmp_check_interval. I agree that should rarely
happen but on a really busy system it is possible and in that case
we would
miss updating mmp block for too long and so another node could have
started
using the filesystem. I actually don't see a reason why kmmpd should be
checking the block each mmp_check_interval as you do -
mmp_check_interval
is just for ext4_multi_mount_protect() to know how long it should wait
before considering mmp block stale... Am I missing something?
Honza
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the detection mechanism here before. Now
I understand
the detection mechanism here.
As you said, it's just an abnormal protection. There's really no problem.
Yeah, i did test as following steps
hostA hostB
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
delay 5s after label "skip" so hostB will see seq is
EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
mount
ext4_multi_mount_protect -> seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
run kmmpd
run kmmpd
Actually,in this situation kmmpd will not detect confliction.
In ext4_multi_mount_protect function we write mmp data first and wait
'wait_time * HZ' seconds,
read mmp data do check. Most of the time, If 'wait_time' is zero, it can pass
check.
But how can be wait_time zero? As far as I'm reading the code, wait_time
must be at least EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL...
Honza
int ext4_multi_mount_protect(struct super_block *sb,
ext4_fsblk_t mmp_block)
{
struct ext4_super_block *es = EXT4_SB(sb)->s_es;
struct buffer_head *bh = NULL;
struct mmp_struct *mmp = NULL;
u32 seq;
unsigned int mmp_check_interval =
le16_to_cpu(es->s_mmp_update_interval);
unsigned int wait_time = 0; --> wait_time is
equal with zero
int retval;
if (mmp_block < le32_to_cpu(es->s_first_data_block) ||
mmp_block >= ext4_blocks_count(es)) {
ext4_warning(sb, "Invalid MMP block in superblock");
goto failed;
}
retval = read_mmp_block(sb, &bh, mmp_block);
if (retval)
goto failed;
mmp = (struct mmp_struct *)(bh->b_data);
if (mmp_check_interval < EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL)
mmp_check_interval = EXT4_MMP_MIN_CHECK_INTERVAL;
/*
* If check_interval in MMP block is larger, use that instead of
* update_interval from the superblock.
*/
if (le16_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_check_interval) > mmp_check_interval)
mmp_check_interval = le16_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_check_interval);
seq = le32_to_cpu(mmp->mmp_seq);
if (seq == EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN) --> If hostA and hostB mount the
same block device at the same time,
--> HostA and hostB maybe get 'seq' with the same value EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN.
goto skip;
Oh, I see. Thanks for explanation.
quoted
...
skip:
/*
* write a new random sequence number.
*/
seq = mmp_new_seq();
mmp->mmp_seq = cpu_to_le32(seq);
retval = write_mmp_block(sb, bh);
if (retval)
goto failed;
/*
* wait for MMP interval and check mmp_seq.
*/
if (schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ * wait_time) != 0) {
--> If seq is equal with EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN, wait_time is zero.
ext4_warning(sb, "MMP startup interrupted, failing mount");
goto failed;
}
retval = read_mmp_block(sb, &bh, mmp_block); -->We may get the same
data with which we wrote, so we can't detect conflict at here.
OK, I see. So the race in ext4_multi_mount_protect() goes like:
hostA hostB
read_mmp_block() read_mmp_block()
- sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN - sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
Yes, that's what i mean.
Do I get it right? Actually, if we passed seq we wrote in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() to kmmpd (probably in sb), then kmmpd would
notice the conflict on its first invocation but still that would be a bit
late because there would be a time window where hostA and hostB would be
both using the fs.
We could reduce the likelyhood of this race by always waiting in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() between write & read but I guess that is
undesirable as it would slow down all clean mounts. Ted?
Honza
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:38:47AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
OK, I see. So the race in ext4_multi_mount_protect() goes like:
hostA hostB
read_mmp_block() read_mmp_block()
- sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN - sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
Do I get it right? Actually, if we passed seq we wrote in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() to kmmpd (probably in sb), then kmmpd would
notice the conflict on its first invocation but still that would be a bit
late because there would be a time window where hostA and hostB would be
both using the fs.
We could reduce the likelyhood of this race by always waiting in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() between write & read but I guess that is
undesirable as it would slow down all clean mounts. Ted?
I'd like Andreas to comment here. My understanding is that MMP
originally intended as a safety mechanism which would be used as part
of a primary/backup high availability system, but not as the *primary*
system where you might try to have two servers simultaneously try to
mount the file system and use MMP as the "election" mechanism to
decide which server is going to be the primary system, and which would
be the backup system.
The cost of being able to handle this particular race is it would slow
down the mounts of cleanly unmounted systems.
There *are* better systems to implement leader elections[1] than using
MMP. Most of these more efficient leader elections assume that you
have a working IP network, and so if you have a separate storage
network (including a shared SCSI bus) from your standard IP network,
then MMP is a useful failsafe in the face of a network partition of
your IP network. The question is whether MMP should be useful for
more than that. And if it isn't, then we should probably document
what MMP is and isn't good for, and give advice in the form of an
application note for how MMP should be used in the context of a larger
system.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_election
- Ted
From: Andreas Dilger <hidden> Date: 2021-10-15 03:21:39
On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Theodore Ts'o [off-list ref] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:38:47AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
quoted
OK, I see. So the race in ext4_multi_mount_protect() goes like:
hostA hostB
read_mmp_block() read_mmp_block()
- sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN - sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
Do I get it right? Actually, if we passed seq we wrote in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() to kmmpd (probably in sb), then kmmpd would
notice the conflict on its first invocation but still that would be a bit
late because there would be a time window where hostA and hostB would be
both using the fs.
It would be enough to have even a short delay between write and read to
detect this case. I _thought_ there should be a delay in this case,
but maybe it was removed after the patch was originally submitted?
quoted
We could reduce the likelyhood of this race by always waiting in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() between write & read but I guess that is
undesirable as it would slow down all clean mounts. Ted?
I'd like Andreas to comment here. My understanding is that MMP
originally intended as a safety mechanism which would be used as part
of a primary/backup high availability system, but not as the *primary*
system where you might try to have two servers simultaneously try to
mount the file system and use MMP as the "election" mechanism to
decide which server is going to be the primary system, and which would
be the backup system.
The cost of being able to handle this particular race is it would slow
down the mounts of cleanly unmounted systems.
Ted's understanding is correct - MMP is intended to be a backup mechanism
to prevent filesystem corruption in the case where external HA methods
do the wrong thing. This has avoided problems countless times on systems
with multi-port access to the same storage, and can also be useful in the
case of shared VM images accessed over the network, and similar.
When MMP was implemented for ZFS, a slightly different mechanism was used.
Rather than having the delay to detect concurrent mounts, it instead writes
to multiple different blocks in a random order, and then reads them all.
If two nodes try to mount the filesystem concurrently, they would pick
different block orders, and the chance of them having the same order (and
one clobbering all of the blocks of the other) would be 1/2^num_blocks.
The drawback is that this would consume more space in the filesystem, but
it wouldn't be a huge deal these days.
There *are* better systems to implement leader elections[1] than using
MMP. Most of these more efficient leader elections assume that you
have a working IP network, and so if you have a separate storage
network (including a shared SCSI bus) from your standard IP network,
then MMP is a useful failsafe in the face of a network partition of
your IP network. The question is whether MMP should be useful for
more than that. And if it isn't, then we should probably document
what MMP is and isn't good for, and give advice in the form of an
application note for how MMP should be used in the context of a larger
system.
One of the existing failure cases with HA that MMP detects is loss of
network connection, so I wouldn't want to depend on that.
Cheers, Andreas
From: Andreas Dilger <hidden> Date: 2021-10-15 03:21:42
On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Theodore Ts'o [off-list ref] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:38:47AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
quoted
OK, I see. So the race in ext4_multi_mount_protect() goes like:
hostA hostB
read_mmp_block() read_mmp_block()
- sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN - sees EXT4_MMP_SEQ_CLEAN
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
write_mmp_block()
wait_time == 0 -> no wait
read_mmp_block()
- all OK, mount
Do I get it right? Actually, if we passed seq we wrote in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() to kmmpd (probably in sb), then kmmpd would
notice the conflict on its first invocation but still that would be a bit
late because there would be a time window where hostA and hostB would be
both using the fs.
It would be enough to have even a short delay between write and read to
detect this case. I _thought_ there should be a delay in this case,
but maybe it was removed after the patch was originally submitted?
quoted
We could reduce the likelyhood of this race by always waiting in
ext4_multi_mount_protect() between write & read but I guess that is
undesirable as it would slow down all clean mounts. Ted?
I'd like Andreas to comment here. My understanding is that MMP
originally intended as a safety mechanism which would be used as part
of a primary/backup high availability system, but not as the *primary*
system where you might try to have two servers simultaneously try to
mount the file system and use MMP as the "election" mechanism to
decide which server is going to be the primary system, and which would
be the backup system.
The cost of being able to handle this particular race is it would slow
down the mounts of cleanly unmounted systems.
Ted's understanding is correct - MMP is intended to be a backup mechanism
to prevent filesystem corruption in the case where external HA methods
do the wrong thing. This has avoided problems countless times on systems
with multi-port access to the same storage, and can also be useful in the
case of shared VM images accessed over the network, and similar.
When MMP was implemented for ZFS, a slightly different mechanism was used.
Rather than having the delay to detect concurrent mounts, it instead writes
to multiple different blocks in a random order, and then reads them all.
If two nodes try to mount the filesystem concurrently, they would pick
different block orders, and the chance of them having the same order (and
one clobbering all of the blocks of the other) would be 1/2^num_blocks.
The drawback is that this would consume more space in the filesystem, but
it wouldn't be a huge deal these days.
There *are* better systems to implement leader elections[1] than using
MMP. Most of these more efficient leader elections assume that you
have a working IP network, and so if you have a separate storage
network (including a shared SCSI bus) from your standard IP network,
then MMP is a useful failsafe in the face of a network partition of
your IP network. The question is whether MMP should be useful for
more than that. And if it isn't, then we should probably document
what MMP is and isn't good for, and give advice in the form of an
application note for how MMP should be used in the context of a larger
system.
One of the existing failure cases with HA that MMP detects is loss of
network connection, so I wouldn't want to depend on that.
Cheers, Andreas