Re: [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case

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Re: [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case

From: Eric W. Biederman <hidden>
Date: 2022-01-04 19:47:21

Linus Torvalds [off-list ref] writes:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:54 PM Eric W. Biederman [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted

        if (signal->flags & (SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT | SIGNAL_GROUP_COREDUMP)) {
-               if (!(signal->flags & SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT))
-                       return sig == SIGKILL;
+               struct core_state *core_state = signal->core_state;
+               if (core_state) {
This change is very confusing.

Also, why does it do that 'signal->core_state->dumper.task', when we
already know that it's the same as 'signal->group_exit_task'?

The only thing that sets 'signal->core_state' also sets
'signal->group_exit_task', and the call chain has set both to the same
task.

So the code is odd and makes little sense.
As you say signal->group_exit_task, and core_state->dumper.task point to
the same task.  So it may be a little silly when viewed independently of
everything else to use core_state->dumper.task instead of
group_exit_task as it is an extra cache line dereference.

The thing is signal->group_exit_task is only used by coredumps currently
as a flag to tell signal_group_exit to return true.  It is exec that
actually uses signal->group_exit_task in conjunction with
signal->notify_count to wake itself up.

Using a pointer as a flag and not for it's value.  Having different
semantics for who sets the pointer.  All of those are weird enough
I just want to make signal->group_exit_task to go away.

By using core_state->dumper.task I was able to make
signal->group_exit_task exclusive to the exec case in the following
changes, and to rename it signal->group_exec_task so no one gets
confused what the field is for.
But what's even more odd is how it

 (a) sends the SIGKILL to somebody else

 (b) does *NOT* send SIGKILL to itself

Now, (a) is explained in the commit message. The intent is to signal
the core dumper.
Which is the a specific thread of the target process, and it is
the only thread running of the target process.
But (b) looks like a fundamental change in semantics. The target of
the SIGKILL is still running, might be in some loop in the kernel that
wants to be interrupted by a fatal signal, and you expressly disabled
the code that would send that fatal signal.

If I send SIGKILL to thread A, then that SIGKILL had *better* be
delivered. To thread A, which may be in a "mutex_lock_killable()" or
whatever else.

The fact that thread B may be in the process of trying to dump core
doesn't change that at all, as far as I can see.

So I think this patch is fundamentally buggy and wrong. Or at least
needs much more explanation of why you'd not send SIGKILL to the
target thread.
If you look at zap_threads.  You can observe that it takes the siglock,
sets SIGNAL_GROUP_COREDUMP, and sets signal->core_state and in
zap_process makes SIGKILL pending is the per-task sigset, and calls
signal_wake_up on every task.

This case in prepare_signal happens after that.  After every task
has been told to die, and __fatal_signal_pending is true for all of
them if they have not reached do_exit yet.



If you look in zap_threads you will see that the core dumping thread
clears TIF_SIGPENDING, and in general makes fatal_signal_pending false
for itself.  But keep in mind that this thread because it is dumping
core is already on the path to do_exit.  It has already processed a
fatal signal.


So in the special case I only worry about the dumping task as it is the
only task after zap_threads that does not have fatal_signal_pending.


This is different than the ordinary case of delivering SIGKILL
where complete_signal makes SIGKILL pending in the per-task sigset
of every task in the process.


Currently I suspect changing wait_event_uninterruptible to
wait_event_killable, is causing problems.

Or perhaps there is some reason tasks that have already entered do_exit
need to have fatal_signal_pending set. (The will have
fatal_signal_pending set up until they enter get_signal which calls
do_group_exit which calls do_exit).

Which is why I am trying to reproduce the reported failure so I can get
the kernel to tell me what is going on.  If this is not resolved quickly
I won't send you this change, and I will pull it out of linux-next.

Eric

Re: [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case

From: Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>
Date: 2022-01-08 19:13:26

On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 01:47:05PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
Currently I suspect changing wait_event_uninterruptible to
wait_event_killable, is causing problems.

Or perhaps there is some reason tasks that have already entered do_exit
need to have fatal_signal_pending set. (The will have
fatal_signal_pending set up until they enter get_signal which calls
do_group_exit which calls do_exit).

Which is why I am trying to reproduce the reported failure so I can get
the kernel to tell me what is going on.  If this is not resolved quickly
I won't send you this change, and I will pull it out of linux-next.
It would have been good if you would have removed this from linux-next
already.

Anyway, now I also had to spend quite some time to bisect why several test
suites just hang with linux-next. It's probably because of holidays that
you didn't get more bug reports.

On s390

- ltp
- elfutils selftests
- seccomp kernel selftests

hang with linux-next.

I bisected the problem to this patch using elfutils selftests:

git clone git://sourceware.org/git/elfutils.git
cd elfutils
autoreconf -fi
./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --disable-debuginfod
make -j $(nproc) > /dev/null
cd tests
make -j $(nproc) check

Note: I actually didn't verify if this also causes ltp+seccomp selftests
      to hang. I just assume it is the case.
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