From: Peter Collingbourne <hidden> Date: 2021-06-22 05:14:08
Introduce a command line flag that controls whether TCR_EL1.TBID0
is set at boot time. Since this is a change to the userspace ABI the
option defaults to off for now, although it seems likely that we'll
be able to change the default at some future point.
Setting TCR_EL1.TBID0 increases the number of signature bits used by
the pointer authentication instructions for instruction addresses by 8,
which improves the security of pointer authentication, but it also has
the consequence of changing the operation of the branch instructions
so that they no longer ignore the top byte of the target address but
instead fault if they are non-zero.
Signed-off-by: Peter Collingbourne <redacted>
Link: https://linux-review.googlesource.com/id/Ife724ad708142bc475f42e8c1d9609124994bbbd
---
v2:
- rebase to linux-next
- make it a command line flag
arch/arm64/include/asm/compiler.h | 19 ++++++++----
arch/arm64/include/asm/memory.h | 2 ++
arch/arm64/include/asm/pgtable-hwdef.h | 1 +
arch/arm64/include/asm/pointer_auth.h | 2 +-
arch/arm64/include/asm/processor.h | 2 ++
arch/arm64/kernel/pointer_auth.c | 12 +++++++
arch/arm64/kernel/process.c | 43 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
arch/arm64/kernel/ptrace.c | 8 ++---
arch/arm64/mm/fault.c | 14 ++++++++-
arch/arm64/mm/proc.S | 29 +----------------
10 files changed, 91 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-)
@@ -191,6 +191,8 @@ extern u64 kimage_vaddr;/* the offset between the kernel virtual and physical mappings */externu64kimage_voffset;+externu64init_tcr;+staticinlineunsignedlongkaslr_offset(void){returnkimage_vaddr-KIMAGE_VADDR;
@@ -529,11 +529,23 @@ static int __kprobes do_page_fault(unsigned long far, unsigned int esr,vm_fault_tfault;unsignedlongvm_flags;unsignedintmm_flags=FAULT_FLAG_DEFAULT;-unsignedlongaddr=untagged_addr(far);+unsignedlongaddr;if(kprobe_page_fault(regs,esr))return0;+/*+*IfTBID0issetthenwemaygetanIABTwithataggedaddresshereas+*aresultofbranchingtoataggedaddress.Inthiscasewewantto+*avoiduntaggingtheaddress,lettheVMAlookupfailandgeta+*SIGSEGV.LeavingtheaddressasiswillalsoworkifTBID0isclear+*orunsupportedbecausethetagbitsofFAR_EL1willbeclear.+*/+if(is_el0_instruction_abort(esr))+addr=far;+else+addr=untagged_addr(far);+/**Ifwe'reinaninterruptorhavenousercontext,wemustnottake*thefault.
Hi Peter,
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:12:04PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
Introduce a command line flag that controls whether TCR_EL1.TBID0
is set at boot time. Since this is a change to the userspace ABI the
option defaults to off for now, although it seems likely that we'll
be able to change the default at some future point.
Setting TCR_EL1.TBID0 increases the number of signature bits used by
the pointer authentication instructions for instruction addresses by 8,
which improves the security of pointer authentication, but it also has
the consequence of changing the operation of the branch instructions
so that they no longer ignore the top byte of the target address but
instead fault if they are non-zero.
I'm a bit uneasy about the ABI change and not so keen on constraining
the ABI through the kernel command line. Ideally we should make this an
opt-in per application (prctl()) but that has some aspects to address
first: (a) this bit is permitted to be cached in the TLB so we'd need
some TLBI when setting it (and a clarification in the specs that it is
tagged by ASID/VMID, probably fine) and (b) we'd need to context-switch
TCR_EL1, with a small performance penalty (I don't think it's
significant but worth testing).
Unfortunately, we can't turn TBID0 off dynamically when we detect a
tagged PC since this would break authentication of already encoded
pointers.
Prior to hwasan and MTE, I doubt anyone would have noticed this change
but once malloc() and friends started returning tagged pointers,
programs executing code from malloc()'ed regions would fall apart with
TBID0. I think it's a bit of stretch to argue that it's hwasan and MTE
causing the application breakage rather than a user-kernel ABI change,
since that's already working currently (though such programs should be
re-written).
Longer term, I'd like the TBID0 to be the default but transitioning
without breaking the user is tricky, hence my first option would be
per-application with an opt-in.
@@ -529,11 +529,23 @@ static int __kprobes do_page_fault(unsigned long far, unsigned int esr,vm_fault_tfault;unsignedlongvm_flags;unsignedintmm_flags=FAULT_FLAG_DEFAULT;-unsignedlongaddr=untagged_addr(far);+unsignedlongaddr;if(kprobe_page_fault(regs,esr))return0;+/*+*IfTBID0issetthenwemaygetanIABTwithataggedaddresshereas+*aresultofbranchingtoataggedaddress.Inthiscasewewantto+*avoiduntaggingtheaddress,lettheVMAlookupfailandgeta+*SIGSEGV.LeavingtheaddressasiswillalsoworkifTBID0isclear+*orunsupportedbecausethetagbitsofFAR_EL1willbeclear.+*/+if(is_el0_instruction_abort(esr))+addr=far;+else+addr=untagged_addr(far);
Should this also check for tcr_tbid0_enabled() before deciding not to
untag the address?
--
Catalin
From: Peter Collingbourne <hidden> Date: 2021-07-27 22:02:23
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 9:51 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
Hi Peter,
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:12:04PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
Introduce a command line flag that controls whether TCR_EL1.TBID0
is set at boot time. Since this is a change to the userspace ABI the
option defaults to off for now, although it seems likely that we'll
be able to change the default at some future point.
Setting TCR_EL1.TBID0 increases the number of signature bits used by
the pointer authentication instructions for instruction addresses by 8,
which improves the security of pointer authentication, but it also has
the consequence of changing the operation of the branch instructions
so that they no longer ignore the top byte of the target address but
instead fault if they are non-zero.
I'm a bit uneasy about the ABI change and not so keen on constraining
the ABI through the kernel command line. Ideally we should make this an
opt-in per application (prctl()) but that has some aspects to address
This doesn't necessarily need to be the end state, we can enhance this
based on need. For example, we could choose to take this patch now and
later implement the per-process opt-in where the default is controlled
by the command line. Or just implement the software-only per-process
TBID0 almost-disablement which would be much simpler than doing it in
hardware, if that is enough to satisfy future needs. Otherwise we risk
adding "unused" complexity to the kernel that we can never remove due
to API stability guarantees.
first: (a) this bit is permitted to be cached in the TLB so we'd need
some TLBI when setting it (and a clarification in the specs that it is
tagged by ASID/VMID, probably fine) and (b) we'd need to context-switch
TCR_EL1, with a small performance penalty (I don't think it's
significant but worth testing).
So TLBI all of the CPUs on prctl() and context-switch TCR_EL1? I
thought there would be DOS concerns with the first part of that?
I hope it would be a straightforward spec clarification. Maybe Cortex
tags TBID0 by ASID/VMID but what about Apple?
If we can resolve these concerns I suppose that would work. But as
mentioned above I'm not sure we should do it straight away.
Unfortunately, we can't turn TBID0 off dynamically when we detect a
tagged PC since this would break authentication of already encoded
pointers.
Prior to hwasan and MTE, I doubt anyone would have noticed this change
but once malloc() and friends started returning tagged pointers,
programs executing code from malloc()'ed regions would fall apart with
TBID0. I think it's a bit of stretch to argue that it's hwasan and MTE
causing the application breakage rather than a user-kernel ABI change,
since that's already working currently (though such programs should be
re-written).
Longer term, I'd like the TBID0 to be the default but transitioning
without breaking the user is tricky, hence my first option would be
per-application with an opt-in.
If we want to transition to TBID0 being the default, it seems better
to not let it be controlled by the application, if we can get away
with it. Otherwise applications may start implicitly disabling it, or
assuming it to be disabled by default. For example if we made it a bit
in tagged_addr_ctrl then a call such as:
prctl(PR_SET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL, PR_TAGGED_ADDR_ENABLE, 0, 0, 0);
will disable TBID0 even if the default is for it to be enabled. (So
it's a bit unfortunate that we didn't adopt the
PR_PAC_SET_ENABLED_KEYS scheme for PR_SET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL.)
@@ -529,11 +529,23 @@ static int __kprobes do_page_fault(unsigned long far, unsigned int esr,vm_fault_tfault;unsignedlongvm_flags;unsignedintmm_flags=FAULT_FLAG_DEFAULT;-unsignedlongaddr=untagged_addr(far);+unsignedlongaddr;if(kprobe_page_fault(regs,esr))return0;+/*+*IfTBID0issetthenwemaygetanIABTwithataggedaddresshereas+*aresultofbranchingtoataggedaddress.Inthiscasewewantto+*avoiduntaggingtheaddress,lettheVMAlookupfailandgeta+*SIGSEGV.LeavingtheaddressasiswillalsoworkifTBID0isclear+*orunsupportedbecausethetagbitsofFAR_EL1willbeclear.+*/+if(is_el0_instruction_abort(esr))+addr=far;+else+addr=untagged_addr(far);
Should this also check for tcr_tbid0_enabled() before deciding not to
untag the address?
No, if TBID0 is disabled then by this point the hardware would have
untagged the PC for us.
Peter
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:00:10PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 9:51 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:12:04PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
Introduce a command line flag that controls whether TCR_EL1.TBID0
is set at boot time. Since this is a change to the userspace ABI the
option defaults to off for now, although it seems likely that we'll
be able to change the default at some future point.
Setting TCR_EL1.TBID0 increases the number of signature bits used by
the pointer authentication instructions for instruction addresses by 8,
which improves the security of pointer authentication, but it also has
the consequence of changing the operation of the branch instructions
so that they no longer ignore the top byte of the target address but
instead fault if they are non-zero.
I'm a bit uneasy about the ABI change and not so keen on constraining
the ABI through the kernel command line. Ideally we should make this an
opt-in per application (prctl()) but that has some aspects to address
This doesn't necessarily need to be the end state, we can enhance this
based on need. For example, we could choose to take this patch now and
later implement the per-process opt-in where the default is controlled
by the command line.
What's the risk of an application becoming reliant on the new mode
(TBID0) and breaking with the old one? Probably very small but I haven't
figured out if it's zero. Depending on whether we have PAC or PAC2 (the
latter came with 8.6 but optional in 8.3) with TBID0, there are some
differences on how the PAC/AUT instructions work and the code generated
(XOR with the top bits).
Or just implement the software-only per-process
TBID0 almost-disablement which would be much simpler than doing it in
hardware, if that is enough to satisfy future needs.
I don't entirely follow this.
Otherwise we risk adding "unused" complexity to the kernel that we can
never remove due to API stability guarantees.
We've had other debates over the years and, in general, if a kernel
change causes apps to break, we'd have to keep the original behaviour.
Are there any plans to fix the JITs tools you discovered?
Talking to Will about this he was wondering whether we could make TBID0
on by default and clear the tag in PC if we take a fault (on tagged PC),
restarting the context. PAC shouldn't be affected since we would only
branch to an authenticated (PAC code removed) pointer. If this works,
we'd only affect performance slightly on such apps but don't completely
break them.
quoted
first: (a) this bit is permitted to be cached in the TLB so we'd need
some TLBI when setting it (and a clarification in the specs that it is
tagged by ASID/VMID, probably fine) and (b) we'd need to context-switch
TCR_EL1, with a small performance penalty (I don't think it's
significant but worth testing).
So TLBI all of the CPUs on prctl() and context-switch TCR_EL1? I
thought there would be DOS concerns with the first part of that?
The DoS problem appears if we need to issue an IPI to all CPUs (like
stop_machine). The TLBI with broadcast handled in hardware should be OK
as it's targeted to a specific ASID. But this would have to be issued
before any app threads are started, otherwise we'd need to synchronise
TCR_EL1. Given that TBID0 toggling affects PAC, this can only be done
safely very early in the application before return addresses get a PAC
code.
quoted
Unfortunately, we can't turn TBID0 off dynamically when we detect a
tagged PC since this would break authentication of already encoded
pointers.
Prior to hwasan and MTE, I doubt anyone would have noticed this change
but once malloc() and friends started returning tagged pointers,
programs executing code from malloc()'ed regions would fall apart with
TBID0. I think it's a bit of stretch to argue that it's hwasan and MTE
causing the application breakage rather than a user-kernel ABI change,
since that's already working currently (though such programs should be
re-written).
Longer term, I'd like the TBID0 to be the default but transitioning
without breaking the user is tricky, hence my first option would be
per-application with an opt-in.
If we want to transition to TBID0 being the default, it seems better
to not let it be controlled by the application, if we can get away
with it. Otherwise applications may start implicitly disabling it, or
assuming it to be disabled by default. For example if we made it a bit
in tagged_addr_ctrl then a call such as:
prctl(PR_SET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL, PR_TAGGED_ADDR_ENABLE, 0, 0, 0);
will disable TBID0 even if the default is for it to be enabled. (So
it's a bit unfortunate that we didn't adopt the
PR_PAC_SET_ENABLED_KEYS scheme for PR_SET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL.)
At the time, we didn't see a need for it ;). But if it's an opt-in, the
default should be off anyway.
@@ -529,11 +529,23 @@ static int __kprobes do_page_fault(unsigned long far, unsigned int esr,vm_fault_tfault;unsignedlongvm_flags;unsignedintmm_flags=FAULT_FLAG_DEFAULT;-unsignedlongaddr=untagged_addr(far);+unsignedlongaddr;if(kprobe_page_fault(regs,esr))return0;+/*+*IfTBID0issetthenwemaygetanIABTwithataggedaddresshereas+*aresultofbranchingtoataggedaddress.Inthiscasewewantto+*avoiduntaggingtheaddress,lettheVMAlookupfailandgeta+*SIGSEGV.LeavingtheaddressasiswillalsoworkifTBID0isclear+*orunsupportedbecausethetagbitsofFAR_EL1willbeclear.+*/+if(is_el0_instruction_abort(esr))+addr=far;+else+addr=untagged_addr(far);
Should this also check for tcr_tbid0_enabled() before deciding not to
untag the address?
No, if TBID0 is disabled then by this point the hardware would have
untagged the PC for us.
Ah, ok, didn't realise that the tag is removed by the hardware.
--
Catalin
From: Peter Collingbourne <hidden> Date: 2021-07-28 23:52:17
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 9:42 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:00:10PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 9:51 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:12:04PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
Introduce a command line flag that controls whether TCR_EL1.TBID0
is set at boot time. Since this is a change to the userspace ABI the
option defaults to off for now, although it seems likely that we'll
be able to change the default at some future point.
Setting TCR_EL1.TBID0 increases the number of signature bits used by
the pointer authentication instructions for instruction addresses by 8,
which improves the security of pointer authentication, but it also has
the consequence of changing the operation of the branch instructions
so that they no longer ignore the top byte of the target address but
instead fault if they are non-zero.
I'm a bit uneasy about the ABI change and not so keen on constraining
the ABI through the kernel command line. Ideally we should make this an
opt-in per application (prctl()) but that has some aspects to address
This doesn't necessarily need to be the end state, we can enhance this
based on need. For example, we could choose to take this patch now and
later implement the per-process opt-in where the default is controlled
by the command line.
What's the risk of an application becoming reliant on the new mode
(TBID0) and breaking with the old one? Probably very small but I haven't
figured out if it's zero. Depending on whether we have PAC or PAC2 (the
latter came with 8.6 but optional in 8.3) with TBID0, there are some
differences on how the PAC/AUT instructions work and the code generated
(XOR with the top bits).
I think it would be quite small. On Android, at least to begin with
there would be a mixture of devices with different TBID0 settings
(devices without PAC support and devices with older kernels would all
have this disabled), so I think it would be difficult for an
application to depend on it being enabled.
quoted
Or just implement the software-only per-process
TBID0 almost-disablement which would be much simpler than doing it in
hardware, if that is enough to satisfy future needs.
Otherwise we risk adding "unused" complexity to the kernel that we can
never remove due to API stability guarantees.
We've had other debates over the years and, in general, if a kernel
change causes apps to break, we'd have to keep the original behaviour.
Are there any plans to fix the JITs tools you discovered?
Yes, we would definitely want to fix the JIT issue in the Android
platform before rolling out a forward PAC ABI. This would be separate
from fixing apps, which would need to opt into MTE (or address tagging
via the target API level) anyway. But if it turns out that there are
too many apps with these JITs that use MTE or address tagging, I think
we would need to come back to the kernel to figure out some way to let
these programs run.
Talking to Will about this he was wondering whether we could make TBID0
on by default and clear the tag in PC if we take a fault (on tagged PC),
restarting the context. PAC shouldn't be affected since we would only
branch to an authenticated (PAC code removed) pointer. If this works,
we'd only affect performance slightly on such apps but don't completely
break them.
Right, this sounds exactly like my earlier proposal.
quoted
quoted
first: (a) this bit is permitted to be cached in the TLB so we'd need
some TLBI when setting it (and a clarification in the specs that it is
tagged by ASID/VMID, probably fine) and (b) we'd need to context-switch
TCR_EL1, with a small performance penalty (I don't think it's
significant but worth testing).
So TLBI all of the CPUs on prctl() and context-switch TCR_EL1? I
thought there would be DOS concerns with the first part of that?
The DoS problem appears if we need to issue an IPI to all CPUs (like
stop_machine). The TLBI with broadcast handled in hardware should be OK
as it's targeted to a specific ASID. But this would have to be issued
I see -- I hadn't realised that this instruction is implemented as a
broadcast. So we would just need to issue the instruction from any CPU
and we should be good.
before any app threads are started, otherwise we'd need to synchronise
TCR_EL1. Given that TBID0 toggling affects PAC, this can only be done
Right, so this would be different from everything currently in
tagged_addr_ctrl because it would be per-process rather than
per-thread. So if this were a true TBID0 control we may even want it
as a separate prctl() since there are certainly use cases for changing
the other bits of tagged_addr_ctrl while the other threads are
running.
safely very early in the application before return addresses get a PAC
code.
Right, so maybe the "almost-disablement" would work better since all
of the signatures would then still be valid, and you could even have
different settings for different threads if you wanted to (e.g. if you
arranged to run legacy code only on a specific thread).
Peter
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 04:50:07PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 9:42 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:00:10PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 9:51 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:12:04PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
Introduce a command line flag that controls whether TCR_EL1.TBID0
is set at boot time. Since this is a change to the userspace ABI the
option defaults to off for now, although it seems likely that we'll
be able to change the default at some future point.
Setting TCR_EL1.TBID0 increases the number of signature bits used by
the pointer authentication instructions for instruction addresses by 8,
which improves the security of pointer authentication, but it also has
the consequence of changing the operation of the branch instructions
so that they no longer ignore the top byte of the target address but
instead fault if they are non-zero.
I'm a bit uneasy about the ABI change and not so keen on constraining
the ABI through the kernel command line. Ideally we should make this an
opt-in per application (prctl()) but that has some aspects to address
This doesn't necessarily need to be the end state, we can enhance this
based on need. For example, we could choose to take this patch now and
later implement the per-process opt-in where the default is controlled
by the command line.
What's the risk of an application becoming reliant on the new mode
(TBID0) and breaking with the old one? Probably very small but I haven't
figured out if it's zero. Depending on whether we have PAC or PAC2 (the
latter came with 8.6 but optional in 8.3) with TBID0, there are some
differences on how the PAC/AUT instructions work and the code generated
(XOR with the top bits).
I think it would be quite small. On Android, at least to begin with
there would be a mixture of devices with different TBID0 settings
(devices without PAC support and devices with older kernels would all
have this disabled), so I think it would be difficult for an
application to depend on it being enabled.
quoted
quoted
Or just implement the software-only per-process
TBID0 almost-disablement which would be much simpler than doing it in
hardware, if that is enough to satisfy future needs.
Ah, sorry, I missed this one (or just paged it out entirely over the
holiday).
quoted
quoted
Otherwise we risk adding "unused" complexity to the kernel that we can
never remove due to API stability guarantees.
We've had other debates over the years and, in general, if a kernel
change causes apps to break, we'd have to keep the original behaviour.
Are there any plans to fix the JITs tools you discovered?
Yes, we would definitely want to fix the JIT issue in the Android
platform before rolling out a forward PAC ABI. This would be separate
from fixing apps, which would need to opt into MTE (or address tagging
via the target API level) anyway. But if it turns out that there are
too many apps with these JITs that use MTE or address tagging, I think
we would need to come back to the kernel to figure out some way to let
these programs run.
OK, I guess we don't yet have a clear view on how many such apps are
affected.
quoted
Talking to Will about this he was wondering whether we could make TBID0
on by default and clear the tag in PC if we take a fault (on tagged PC),
restarting the context. PAC shouldn't be affected since we would only
branch to an authenticated (PAC code removed) pointer. If this works,
we'd only affect performance slightly on such apps but don't completely
break them.
Right, this sounds exactly like my earlier proposal.
Indeed. Something I haven't figured out yet is whether such handling in
the kernel would weaken PAC. For example, following a failed AUT (the
old style which does not trap), the resulting address would cause a
translation fault. Would the kernel clearing the top byte result in a
potentially valid address?
quoted
quoted
quoted
first: (a) this bit is permitted to be cached in the TLB so we'd need
some TLBI when setting it (and a clarification in the specs that it is
tagged by ASID/VMID, probably fine) and (b) we'd need to context-switch
TCR_EL1, with a small performance penalty (I don't think it's
significant but worth testing).
So TLBI all of the CPUs on prctl() and context-switch TCR_EL1? I
thought there would be DOS concerns with the first part of that?
The DoS problem appears if we need to issue an IPI to all CPUs (like
stop_machine). The TLBI with broadcast handled in hardware should be OK
as it's targeted to a specific ASID. But this would have to be issued
I see -- I hadn't realised that this instruction is implemented as a
broadcast. So we would just need to issue the instruction from any CPU
and we should be good.
Well, as long as it's single-threaded when the prctl() is issued. If
there are multiple threads, we'd have to synchronise all the CPUs. Such
requirement is probably not a big deal anyway as it affects the return
addresses, so it would have to be done early.
quoted
before any app threads are started, otherwise we'd need to synchronise
TCR_EL1. Given that TBID0 toggling affects PAC, this can only be done
Right, so this would be different from everything currently in
tagged_addr_ctrl because it would be per-process rather than
per-thread. So if this were a true TBID0 control we may even want it
as a separate prctl() since there are certainly use cases for changing
the other bits of tagged_addr_ctrl while the other threads are
running.
Since it's permitted to be cached in the TLB, switching it between
threads would require TLBI on each switch, so not feasible.
How early is the prctl(PR_TAGGED_ADDR_ENABLE) called? Anyway, it
probably makes more sense to have a separate control since TBID0 is not
necessarily linked to hwasan or MTE. We'd want more PAC bits even if
hwasan or MTE are not deployed.
quoted
safely very early in the application before return addresses get a PAC
code.
Right, so maybe the "almost-disablement" would work better since all
of the signatures would then still be valid, and you could even have
different settings for different threads if you wanted to (e.g. if you
arranged to run legacy code only on a specific thread).
Yes, if (a) it doesn't weaken PAC and (b) there are no future plans to
use code TBI as trapping would make it slower.
I think we need to decide whether full TBI would be any useful going
forward. One comment from Szabolcs on the previous version was that
"data only tbi is a more complicated concept than plain tbi". Are there
any tooling plans to benefit from code TBI? Or any use-cases that would
be affected? For example, if we decide mmap() to return tagged pointers
(with a new flag), would JITs want to benefit?
If we need both data and code TBI to coexist, we should look into a
per-process control.
--
Catalin
From: Peter Collingbourne <hidden> Date: 2021-08-06 01:50:34
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 10:44 AM Catalin Marinas
[off-list ref] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 04:50:07PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 9:42 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:00:10PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 9:51 AM Catalin Marinas [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:12:04PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
quoted
Introduce a command line flag that controls whether TCR_EL1.TBID0
is set at boot time. Since this is a change to the userspace ABI the
option defaults to off for now, although it seems likely that we'll
be able to change the default at some future point.
Setting TCR_EL1.TBID0 increases the number of signature bits used by
the pointer authentication instructions for instruction addresses by 8,
which improves the security of pointer authentication, but it also has
the consequence of changing the operation of the branch instructions
so that they no longer ignore the top byte of the target address but
instead fault if they are non-zero.
I'm a bit uneasy about the ABI change and not so keen on constraining
the ABI through the kernel command line. Ideally we should make this an
opt-in per application (prctl()) but that has some aspects to address
This doesn't necessarily need to be the end state, we can enhance this
based on need. For example, we could choose to take this patch now and
later implement the per-process opt-in where the default is controlled
by the command line.
What's the risk of an application becoming reliant on the new mode
(TBID0) and breaking with the old one? Probably very small but I haven't
figured out if it's zero. Depending on whether we have PAC or PAC2 (the
latter came with 8.6 but optional in 8.3) with TBID0, there are some
differences on how the PAC/AUT instructions work and the code generated
(XOR with the top bits).
I think it would be quite small. On Android, at least to begin with
there would be a mixture of devices with different TBID0 settings
(devices without PAC support and devices with older kernels would all
have this disabled), so I think it would be difficult for an
application to depend on it being enabled.
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Or just implement the software-only per-process
TBID0 almost-disablement which would be much simpler than doing it in
hardware, if that is enough to satisfy future needs.
Ah, sorry, I missed this one (or just paged it out entirely over the
holiday).
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Otherwise we risk adding "unused" complexity to the kernel that we can
never remove due to API stability guarantees.
We've had other debates over the years and, in general, if a kernel
change causes apps to break, we'd have to keep the original behaviour.
Are there any plans to fix the JITs tools you discovered?
Yes, we would definitely want to fix the JIT issue in the Android
platform before rolling out a forward PAC ABI. This would be separate
from fixing apps, which would need to opt into MTE (or address tagging
via the target API level) anyway. But if it turns out that there are
too many apps with these JITs that use MTE or address tagging, I think
we would need to come back to the kernel to figure out some way to let
these programs run.
OK, I guess we don't yet have a clear view on how many such apps are
affected.
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Talking to Will about this he was wondering whether we could make TBID0
on by default and clear the tag in PC if we take a fault (on tagged PC),
restarting the context. PAC shouldn't be affected since we would only
branch to an authenticated (PAC code removed) pointer. If this works,
we'd only affect performance slightly on such apps but don't completely
break them.
Right, this sounds exactly like my earlier proposal.
Indeed. Something I haven't figured out yet is whether such handling in
the kernel would weaken PAC. For example, following a failed AUT (the
old style which does not trap), the resulting address would cause a
translation fault. Would the kernel clearing the top byte result in a
potentially valid address?
Yes, as I mentioned in my earlier message, without enhanced PAC2 the
error code will go to bit 61 or 62, and those would be cleared by the
kernel in the almost-disablement mode. So instruction PAC would be
ineffective on CPUs without that feature.
With enhanced PAC2 and without FPAC the computed PAC will be XORed
with the pointer, so you still have a chance of faulting on a
corrupted pointer (if the PAC bits below 55 do not match) -- basically
the same chance as if TBID0 were disabled.
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first: (a) this bit is permitted to be cached in the TLB so we'd need
some TLBI when setting it (and a clarification in the specs that it is
tagged by ASID/VMID, probably fine) and (b) we'd need to context-switch
TCR_EL1, with a small performance penalty (I don't think it's
significant but worth testing).
So TLBI all of the CPUs on prctl() and context-switch TCR_EL1? I
thought there would be DOS concerns with the first part of that?
The DoS problem appears if we need to issue an IPI to all CPUs (like
stop_machine). The TLBI with broadcast handled in hardware should be OK
as it's targeted to a specific ASID. But this would have to be issued
I see -- I hadn't realised that this instruction is implemented as a
broadcast. So we would just need to issue the instruction from any CPU
and we should be good.
Well, as long as it's single-threaded when the prctl() is issued. If
there are multiple threads, we'd have to synchronise all the CPUs. Such
requirement is probably not a big deal anyway as it affects the return
addresses, so it would have to be done early.
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before any app threads are started, otherwise we'd need to synchronise
TCR_EL1. Given that TBID0 toggling affects PAC, this can only be done
Right, so this would be different from everything currently in
tagged_addr_ctrl because it would be per-process rather than
per-thread. So if this were a true TBID0 control we may even want it
as a separate prctl() since there are certainly use cases for changing
the other bits of tagged_addr_ctrl while the other threads are
running.
Since it's permitted to be cached in the TLB, switching it between
threads would require TLBI on each switch, so not feasible.
How early is the prctl(PR_TAGGED_ADDR_ENABLE) called? Anyway, it
probably makes more sense to have a separate control since TBID0 is not
necessarily linked to hwasan or MTE. We'd want more PAC bits even if
hwasan or MTE are not deployed.
The prctl is called before any threads are created, so it would be
feasible to turn on TBID0 there as well. Agreed about the separate
control.
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safely very early in the application before return addresses get a PAC
code.
Right, so maybe the "almost-disablement" would work better since all
of the signatures would then still be valid, and you could even have
different settings for different threads if you wanted to (e.g. if you
arranged to run legacy code only on a specific thread).
Yes, if (a) it doesn't weaken PAC and (b) there are no future plans to
use code TBI as trapping would make it slower.
As mentioned above it does weaken it, but only on certain CPUs.
According to their technical reference manuals, Cortex-A78C implements
enhanced PAC2, and Cortex-A710 implements both that and FPAC. So the
only publicly known CPU where the almost-disablement would also weaken
PAC is the Apple M1, which doesn't implement FPAC or enhanced PAC2.
I wouldn't put much weight on the fact that PAC is weakened though
anyway -- this mode would just be a way to get legacy applications
running even if slower/less secure.
I think we need to decide whether full TBI would be any useful going
forward. One comment from Szabolcs on the previous version was that
"data only tbi is a more complicated concept than plain tbi". Are there
any tooling plans to benefit from code TBI? Or any use-cases that would
be affected? For example, if we decide mmap() to return tagged pointers
(with a new flag), would JITs want to benefit?
At least on the Android side we have no plans to use those bits, not
even for debugging tools like HWASan. Indeed we would much rather put
those bits to use for PAC. I suppose that it's possible that JITs may
want to use them, but that's not something that we would want to
support on Android. And if such a JIT is portable to Apple platforms
it would need an alternative code path to avoid using the bits anyway
due to TBID0 being enabled on those platforms.
If we need both data and code TBI to coexist, we should look into a
per-process control.
It doesn't seem necessary at this point IMHO.
So can we start with the patch that makes this a boot-time control for now?
Peter