rr (http://rr-project.org/), a userspace record-and-replay reverse-
execution debugger, would like to trap and emulate the CPUID instruction.
This would allow us to a) mask away certain hardware features that rr does
not support (e.g. RDRAND) and b) enable trace portability across machines
by providing constant results.
Intel supports faulting on the CPUID instruction in newer processors. Bit
31 of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO advertises support for this feature. It is
documented in detail in Section 2.3.2 of
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/application-notes/virtualization-technology-flexmigration-application-note.pdf.
I would like to thank Trevor Saunders [off-list ref] for drafting
an earlier version of this patch.
Signed-off-by Kyle Huey [off-list ref]
---
arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h | 1 +
arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h | 7 ++++
arch/x86/include/asm/thread_info.h | 4 +-
arch/x86/kernel/process.c | 79 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
include/uapi/linux/prctl.h | 6 +++
kernel/sys.c | 12 ++++++
6 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
@@ -191,6 +191,76 @@ int set_tsc_mode(unsigned int val)return0;}+staticvoidhard_disable_CPUID(void)+{+msr_set_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES,0);+}++staticvoiddisable_CPUID(void)+{+preempt_disable();+if(!test_and_set_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+/*+*MustfliptheCPUstatesynchronouslywith+*TIF_NOCPUIDinthecurrentrunningcontext.+*/+hard_disable_CPUID();+preempt_enable();+}++staticvoidhard_enable_CPUID(void)+{+msr_clear_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES,0);+}++staticvoidenable_CPUID(void)+{+preempt_disable();+if(test_and_clear_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+/*+*MustfliptheCPUstatesynchronouslywith+*TIF_NOCPUIDinthecurrentrunningcontext.+*/+hard_enable_CPUID();+preempt_enable();+}++staticintsupports_CPUID_faulting(void)+{+unsignedintlo,hi;++rdmsr(MSR_PLATFORM_INFO,lo,hi);+if((lo&(1<<31)))+return1;+else+return0;+}++intget_cpuid_mode(unsignedlongadr)+{+unsignedintval;++if(test_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+val=PR_CPUID_SIGSEGV;+else+val=PR_CPUID_ENABLE;++returnput_user(val,(unsignedint__user*)adr);+}++intset_cpuid_mode(unsignedintval)+{+// Only disable/enable_CPUID() if it is supported on this hardware.+if(val==PR_CPUID_SIGSEGV&&supports_CPUID_faulting())+disable_CPUID();+elseif(val==PR_CPUID_ENABLE&&supports_CPUID_faulting())+enable_CPUID();+else+return-EINVAL;++return0;+}+void__switch_to_xtra(structtask_struct*prev_p,structtask_struct*next_p,structtss_struct*tss){
@@ -210,6 +280,15 @@ void __switch_to_xtra(struct task_struct *prev_p, struct task_struct *next_p,update_debugctlmsr(debugctl);}+if(test_tsk_thread_flag(prev_p,TIF_NOCPUID)^+test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p,TIF_NOCPUID)){+/* prev and next are different */+if(test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p,TIF_NOCPUID))+hard_disable_CPUID();+else+hard_enable_CPUID();+}+if(test_tsk_thread_flag(prev_p,TIF_NOTSC)^test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p,TIF_NOTSC)){/* prev and next are different */
@@ -197,4 +197,10 @@ struct prctl_mm_map {# define PR_CAP_AMBIENT_LOWER 3# define PR_CAP_AMBIENT_CLEAR_ALL 4+/* Get/set the process' ability to use the CPUID instruction */+#define PR_GET_CPUID 48+#define PR_SET_CPUID 49+# define PR_CPUID_ENABLE 1 /* allow the use of the CPUID instruction */+# define PR_CPUID_SIGSEGV 2 /* throw a SIGSEGV instead of reading the CPUID */+#endif /* _LINUX_PRCTL_H */
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 05:29:23PM -0700, Kyle Huey wrote:
rr (http://rr-project.org/), a userspace record-and-replay reverse-
execution debugger, would like to trap and emulate the CPUID instruction.
This would allow us to a) mask away certain hardware features that rr does
not support (e.g. RDRAND) and b) enable trace portability across machines
by providing constant results.
Intel supports faulting on the CPUID instruction in newer processors. Bit
31 of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO advertises support for this feature. It is
documented in detail in Section 2.3.2 of
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/application-notes/virtualization-technology-flexmigration-application-note.pdf.
I would like to thank Trevor Saunders [off-list ref] for drafting
an earlier version of this patch.
Signed-off-by Kyle Huey [off-list ref]
---
arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h | 1 +
arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h | 7 ++++
arch/x86/include/asm/thread_info.h | 4 +-
arch/x86/kernel/process.c | 79 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
include/uapi/linux/prctl.h | 6 +++
kernel/sys.c | 12 ++++++
6 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
@@ -191,6 +191,76 @@ int set_tsc_mode(unsigned int val)return0;}+staticvoidhard_disable_CPUID(void)
Why hard_disable? I don't see any soft_disable.
Also, I can't say that I like all that screaming "CPUID" :-)
disable_cpuid() looks just fine to me too.
quoted hunk
+{+ msr_set_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES, 0);+}++static void disable_CPUID(void)+{+ preempt_disable();+ if (!test_and_set_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+ /*+ * Must flip the CPU state synchronously with+ * TIF_NOCPUID in the current running context.+ */+ hard_disable_CPUID();+ preempt_enable();+}++static void hard_enable_CPUID(void)+{+ msr_clear_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES, 0);+}++static void enable_CPUID(void)+{+ preempt_disable();+ if (test_and_clear_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+ /*+ * Must flip the CPU state synchronously with+ * TIF_NOCPUID in the current running context.+ */+ hard_enable_CPUID();+ preempt_enable();+}++static int supports_CPUID_faulting(void)+{+ unsigned int lo, hi;++ rdmsr(MSR_PLATFORM_INFO, lo, hi);
rdmsr_safe()
quoted hunk
+ if ((lo & (1 << 31)))+ return 1;+ else+ return 0;+}+int get_cpuid_mode(unsigned long adr)+{+ unsigned int val;++ if (test_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+ val = PR_CPUID_SIGSEGV;+ else+ val = PR_CPUID_ENABLE;++ return put_user(val, (unsigned int __user *)adr);+}++int set_cpuid_mode(unsigned int val)+{+ // Only disable/enable_CPUID() if it is supported on this hardware.
@@ -210,6 +280,15 @@ void __switch_to_xtra(struct task_struct *prev_p, struct task_struct *next_p, update_debugctlmsr(debugctl); }+ if (test_tsk_thread_flag(prev_p, TIF_NOCPUID) ^+ test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOCPUID)) {+ /* prev and next are different */+ if (test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOCPUID))+ hard_disable_CPUID();+ else+ hard_enable_CPUID();+ }+
Frankly, I can't say that I'm thrilled by this: if this is a niche
feature which has only a very narrow usage for debugging, I'd much
prefer if this whole thing were implemented with a static_key which was
false on the majority of the systems so that __switch_to() tests it much
cheaply.
Then and only then if your debugger runs arch_prctl(), it would enable
the key and then set_cpuid_mode() can query the MSR directly instead of
using another flag in the thread_info flags.
This would keep this niche feature out of the way of the hot paths.
quoted hunk
if (test_tsk_thread_flag(prev_p, TIF_NOTSC) ^
test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOTSC)) {
/* prev and next are different */
@@ -197,4 +197,10 @@ struct prctl_mm_map {# define PR_CAP_AMBIENT_LOWER 3# define PR_CAP_AMBIENT_CLEAR_ALL 4+/* Get/set the process' ability to use the CPUID instruction */+#define PR_GET_CPUID 48+#define PR_SET_CPUID 49+# define PR_CPUID_ENABLE 1 /* allow the use of the CPUID instruction */+# define PR_CPUID_SIGSEGV 2 /* throw a SIGSEGV instead of reading the CPUID */+#endif /* _LINUX_PRCTL_H */
This whole fun should be in arch_prctl() as it is arch-specific.
And wherever it ends, it needs documenting in the man page.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
--
Thanks for the review!
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 2:07 AM, Borislav Petkov [off-list ref] wrote:
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 05:29:23PM -0700, Kyle Huey wrote:
quoted
rr (http://rr-project.org/), a userspace record-and-replay reverse-
execution debugger, would like to trap and emulate the CPUID instruction.
This would allow us to a) mask away certain hardware features that rr does
not support (e.g. RDRAND) and b) enable trace portability across machines
by providing constant results.
Intel supports faulting on the CPUID instruction in newer processors. Bit
31 of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO advertises support for this feature. It is
documented in detail in Section 2.3.2 of
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/application-notes/virtualization-technology-flexmigration-application-note.pdf.
I would like to thank Trevor Saunders [off-list ref] for drafting
an earlier version of this patch.
Signed-off-by Kyle Huey [off-list ref]
---
arch/x86/include/asm/msr-index.h | 1 +
arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h | 7 ++++
arch/x86/include/asm/thread_info.h | 4 +-
arch/x86/kernel/process.c | 79 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
include/uapi/linux/prctl.h | 6 +++
kernel/sys.c | 12 ++++++
6 files changed, 108 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
@@ -191,6 +191,76 @@ int set_tsc_mode(unsigned int val)return0;}+staticvoidhard_disable_CPUID(void)
Why hard_disable? I don't see any soft_disable.
Copied from PR_SET_TSC. Would you prefer something like
disable_cpuid/disable_cpuid_and_set_flag for
hard_disable_CPUID/disable_CPUID?
Also, I can't say that I like all that screaming "CPUID" :-)
disable_cpuid() looks just fine to me too.
Ok.
quoted
+{+ msr_set_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES, 0);+}++static void disable_CPUID(void)+{+ preempt_disable();+ if (!test_and_set_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+ /*+ * Must flip the CPU state synchronously with+ * TIF_NOCPUID in the current running context.+ */+ hard_disable_CPUID();+ preempt_enable();+}++static void hard_enable_CPUID(void)+{+ msr_clear_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES, 0);+}++static void enable_CPUID(void)+{+ preempt_disable();+ if (test_and_clear_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+ /*+ * Must flip the CPU state synchronously with+ * TIF_NOCPUID in the current running context.+ */+ hard_enable_CPUID();+ preempt_enable();+}++static int supports_CPUID_faulting(void)+{+ unsigned int lo, hi;++ rdmsr(MSR_PLATFORM_INFO, lo, hi);
rdmsr_safe()
Ok.
quoted
+ if ((lo & (1 << 31)))+ return 1;+ else+ return 0;+}+int get_cpuid_mode(unsigned long adr)+{+ unsigned int val;++ if (test_thread_flag(TIF_NOCPUID))+ val = PR_CPUID_SIGSEGV;+ else+ val = PR_CPUID_ENABLE;++ return put_user(val, (unsigned int __user *)adr);+}++int set_cpuid_mode(unsigned int val)+{+ // Only disable/enable_CPUID() if it is supported on this hardware.
@@ -210,6 +280,15 @@ void __switch_to_xtra(struct task_struct *prev_p, struct task_struct *next_p, update_debugctlmsr(debugctl); }+ if (test_tsk_thread_flag(prev_p, TIF_NOCPUID) ^+ test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOCPUID)) {+ /* prev and next are different */+ if (test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOCPUID))+ hard_disable_CPUID();+ else+ hard_enable_CPUID();+ }+
Frankly, I can't say that I'm thrilled by this: if this is a niche
feature which has only a very narrow usage for debugging, I'd much
prefer if this whole thing were implemented with a static_key which was
false on the majority of the systems so that __switch_to() tests it much
cheaply.
Then and only then if your debugger runs arch_prctl(), it would enable
the key and then set_cpuid_mode() can query the MSR directly instead of
using another flag in the thread_info flags.
This would keep this niche feature out of the way of the hot paths.
My code is already in the slow path in __switch_to_xtra(), along with
other debugging features like TIF_BLOCKSTEP and TIF_NOTSC. Adding a
bit to the mask tested in __switch_to() shouldn't affect performance
of the hot path.
quoted
if (test_tsk_thread_flag(prev_p, TIF_NOTSC) ^
test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOTSC)) {
/* prev and next are different */
@@ -197,4 +197,10 @@ struct prctl_mm_map {# define PR_CAP_AMBIENT_LOWER 3# define PR_CAP_AMBIENT_CLEAR_ALL 4+/* Get/set the process' ability to use the CPUID instruction */+#define PR_GET_CPUID 48+#define PR_SET_CPUID 49+# define PR_CPUID_ENABLE 1 /* allow the use of the CPUID instruction */+# define PR_CPUID_SIGSEGV 2 /* throw a SIGSEGV instead of reading the CPUID */+#endif /* _LINUX_PRCTL_H */
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 07:15:16AM -0700, Kyle Huey wrote:
Copied from PR_SET_TSC. Would you prefer something like
disable_cpuid/disable_cpuid_and_set_flag for
hard_disable_CPUID/disable_CPUID?
Maybe something like this:
switch_cpuid_faulting(bool on)
{
if (on)
msr_set_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES, 0);
else
msr_clear_bit(MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES, 0);
}
and call it with the respective argument.
quoted
quoted
@@ -210,6 +280,15 @@ void __switch_to_xtra(struct task_struct *prev_p, struct task_struct *next_p, update_debugctlmsr(debugctl); }+ if (test_tsk_thread_flag(prev_p, TIF_NOCPUID) ^+ test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOCPUID)) {+ /* prev and next are different */+ if (test_tsk_thread_flag(next_p, TIF_NOCPUID))+ hard_disable_CPUID();+ else+ hard_enable_CPUID();+ }+
Frankly, I can't say that I'm thrilled by this: if this is a niche
feature which has only a very narrow usage for debugging, I'd much
prefer if this whole thing were implemented with a static_key which was
false on the majority of the systems so that __switch_to() tests it much
cheaply.
Then and only then if your debugger runs arch_prctl(), it would enable
the key and then set_cpuid_mode() can query the MSR directly instead of
using another flag in the thread_info flags.
This would keep this niche feature out of the way of the hot paths.
My code is already in the slow path in __switch_to_xtra(), along with
other debugging features like TIF_BLOCKSTEP and TIF_NOTSC. Adding a
bit to the mask tested in __switch_to() shouldn't affect performance
of the hot path.
TIF_BLOCKSTEP maybe but TIF_NOTSC doesn't look like a debugging feature
to me, especially if it is called in seccomp.
And I know it is not on the hot path. But you're using precious TIF bits
for a niche feature. Practically, this is code which will be dead on the
majority of machines out there, because either the hw feature is not
there or because nobody is using it.
Maybe the virtualization aspect would gather more users of this but I
don't know what kvm guys are thinking about faulting CPUID. Let me add
them to CC.
In any case, I'd do the static_key approach because it is simpler and
less obtrusive for your purpose.
But there are plenty more people on CC, this is just me.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
--
rr (http://rr-project.org/), a userspace record-and-replay reverse-
execution debugger, would like to trap and emulate the CPUID instruction.
This would allow us to a) mask away certain hardware features that rr does
not support (e.g. RDRAND) and b) enable trace portability across machines
by providing constant results.
Intel supports faulting on the CPUID instruction in newer processors. Bit
31 of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO advertises support for this feature. It is
documented in detail in Section 2.3.2 of
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/application-notes/virtualization-technology-flexmigration-application-note.pdf.
This should have a cpufeature bit and show up in /proc/cpuinfo. That
should be its own patch. You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
There should be a selftest.
The behavior on fork() should be defined, and that behavior should be
tested by the selftest.
If this bit is preserved on fork(), then no_new_privs must be checked
(or it must be cleared on "unsafe" exec, but that's nasty).
--Andy
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 09:56:11AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
This should have a cpufeature bit and show up in /proc/cpuinfo. That
Haha, test a cpufeature with a faulting CPUID :-)
Yeah, we need a synthetic flag and query MSR_PLATFORM_INFO[31] which
denotes whether the other MSR - MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES - is there and bit
0 is defined.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
--
rr (http://rr-project.org/), a userspace record-and-replay reverse-
execution debugger, would like to trap and emulate the CPUID instruction.
This would allow us to a) mask away certain hardware features that rr does
not support (e.g. RDRAND) and b) enable trace portability across machines
by providing constant results.
Intel supports faulting on the CPUID instruction in newer processors. Bit
31 of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO advertises support for this feature. It is
documented in detail in Section 2.3.2 of
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/application-notes/virtualization-technology-flexmigration-application-note.pdf.
[...]
If this bit is preserved on fork(), then no_new_privs must be checked
(or it must be cleared on "unsafe" exec, but that's nasty).
rr (http://rr-project.org/), a userspace record-and-replay reverse-
execution debugger, would like to trap and emulate the CPUID instruction.
This would allow us to a) mask away certain hardware features that rr does
not support (e.g. RDRAND) and b) enable trace portability across machines
by providing constant results.
Intel supports faulting on the CPUID instruction in newer processors. Bit
31 of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO advertises support for this feature. It is
documented in detail in Section 2.3.2 of
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/application-notes/virtualization-technology-flexmigration-application-note.pdf.
[...]
quoted
If this bit is preserved on fork(), then no_new_privs must be checked
(or it must be cleared on "unsafe" exec, but that's nasty).
I think you mean "preserved on execve()"?
Indeed.
So it should have defined and tested behavior on fork() and execve().
Maybe fork() should preserve the flag after all.
--Andy
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
This is interesting. When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
faulting is supported. But as you suggested, writing to
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
least not in any way that works.
It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel. Is there
existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
- Kyle
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> Date: 2016-09-14 18:52:40
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Kyle Huey [off-list ref] wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
This is interesting. When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
faulting is supported. But as you suggested, writing to
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
least not in any way that works.
It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel. Is there
existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
Andrew, Boris: should we expect Xen PV to do anything sensible when we
write to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to turn on CPUID faulting? Should the Xen
PV rdmsr hooks or perhaps the hypervisor mask out the feature if it
isn't going to be supported?
--Andy
From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> Date: 2016-09-14 19:25:26
On 09/14/2016 02:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Kyle Huey [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
This is interesting. When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
faulting is supported. But as you suggested, writing to
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
least not in any way that works.
It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel. Is there
existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
Andrew, Boris: should we expect Xen PV to do anything sensible when we
write to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to turn on CPUID faulting? Should the Xen
PV rdmsr hooks or perhaps the hypervisor mask out the feature if it
isn't going to be supported?
The hypervisor uses CPUID faulting so we shouldn't advertise this
feature to guests.
-boris
From: Andrew Cooper <hidden> Date: 2016-09-14 19:29:26
On 14/09/2016 20:23, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
On 09/14/2016 02:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Kyle Huey [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
This is interesting. When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
faulting is supported. But as you suggested, writing to
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
least not in any way that works.
It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel. Is there
existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
Andrew, Boris: should we expect Xen PV to do anything sensible when we
write to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to turn on CPUID faulting? Should the Xen
PV rdmsr hooks or perhaps the hypervisor mask out the feature if it
isn't going to be supported?
The hypervisor uses CPUID faulting so we shouldn't advertise this
feature to guests.
In the case that the hardware has faulting, or for any HVM guest, the
extra cost to making the feature available to the guest is a single
conditional test in the cpuid path. This is about as close to zero as a
feature gets. We really should be offering the feature to guests, and
have it actually working. The issue here is that it is leaking when we
weren't intending to offer it.
~Andrew
From: Andrew Cooper <hidden> Date: 2016-09-14 19:34:22
On 14/09/2016 19:52, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Kyle Huey [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
This is interesting. When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
faulting is supported. But as you suggested, writing to
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
least not in any way that works.
It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel. Is there
existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
Andrew, Boris: should we expect Xen PV to do anything sensible when we
write to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to turn on CPUID faulting?
It will drop the write, so "No" is the answer to your question.
Should the Xen
PV rdmsr hooks or perhaps the hypervisor mask out the feature if it
isn't going to be supported?
Yes.
Sadly, whomever hacked these things together in the early days decided
that the most simple solution to getting guests to boot was to allow all
domains default-read access across the CPUID and MSR space, blacklisting
out specific areas known to cause problems. I am in the process of
sorting this stupidity^W "feature" out, but it is taking a while.
What is the purpose of the check? I think it might be easiest to just
do the native thing, and raise a bug in general against Xen citing
"incorrect behaviour with respect to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO", get it fixed in
stable trees and pretend that this breakage never happened.
Short of having a small userspace stub check, I can't see any way to
actually test this, and I certainly would prefer to avoid workarounds
which end up like the OXSAVE detection, which is a complete disaster for
both Linux and Xen.
~Andrew
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> Date: 2016-09-14 19:37:05
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Cooper
[off-list ref] wrote:
On 14/09/2016 20:23, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
quoted
On 09/14/2016 02:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Kyle Huey [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
This is interesting. When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
faulting is supported. But as you suggested, writing to
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
least not in any way that works.
It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel. Is there
existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
Andrew, Boris: should we expect Xen PV to do anything sensible when we
write to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to turn on CPUID faulting? Should the Xen
PV rdmsr hooks or perhaps the hypervisor mask out the feature if it
isn't going to be supported?
The hypervisor uses CPUID faulting so we shouldn't advertise this
feature to guests.
In the case that the hardware has faulting, or for any HVM guest, the
extra cost to making the feature available to the guest is a single
conditional test in the cpuid path. This is about as close to zero as a
feature gets. We really should be offering the feature to guests, and
have it actually working. The issue here is that it is leaking when we
weren't intending to offer it.
As long as Xen can fix this one way or the other in reasonably short
order, I think I'm okay with having Linux incorrectly think it works
on old Xen hypervisors.
--Andy
From: Andrew Cooper <hidden> Date: 2016-09-14 19:42:59
On 14/09/2016 20:36, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Cooper
[off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On 14/09/2016 20:23, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
quoted
On 09/14/2016 02:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
quoted
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Kyle Huey [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
You should explicitly check that, if the
feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
advertised. This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
you're testing the right configuration.
This is interesting. When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
faulting is supported. But as you suggested, writing to
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
least not in any way that works.
It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel. Is there
existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
Andrew, Boris: should we expect Xen PV to do anything sensible when we
write to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to turn on CPUID faulting? Should the Xen
PV rdmsr hooks or perhaps the hypervisor mask out the feature if it
isn't going to be supported?
The hypervisor uses CPUID faulting so we shouldn't advertise this
feature to guests.
In the case that the hardware has faulting, or for any HVM guest, the
extra cost to making the feature available to the guest is a single
conditional test in the cpuid path. This is about as close to zero as a
feature gets. We really should be offering the feature to guests, and
have it actually working. The issue here is that it is leaking when we
weren't intending to offer it.
As long as Xen can fix this one way or the other in reasonably short
order, I think I'm okay with having Linux incorrectly think it works
on old Xen hypervisors.
For now, unilaterally hiding CPUID faulting is easy, and simple to backport.
Making the feature available for guests to use is slightly more tricky,
as the toolstack still depends on not being faulted to construct HVM
domains properly. This is the subject of my current CPUID project,
which will result in dom0 being no more special than any other domain
(in terms of hypervisor-side cpuid handling).
~Andrew