# Re: \[PATCH v18 00/22\] Richacls (Core and Ext4)

- From: Christoph Hellwig \<hch@infradead.org\>
- Date: 2016-03-15 07:10:08 
- List: linux-api
- Page: https://ratatoskr.run/linux-api/2016/03/105755
- Thread: https://ratatoskr.run/linux-nfs/2016/02/104174/t.md

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 09:07:57AM -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> Could you explain what you mean by "adding allow and deny ACE at the
> same time"?

NFSv4/rich ACLs have both ALLOW and DENY ACE, which is contrary to
the model how we've operated since the dawn of time.
```