AW: redhat comment about intel not taking patches?

Greatings,

well I have a compaq hardware and I am in overall satisfied with the quality of it. But the DSDT would be far better if Compaq had tried to compile it at least one times with the Intel iasl compiler. There are real bugs in it and it doesn't confirm to the ACPI Specs. Designed for Windows Anything doesn't make it better. Of course, at the time this hardware was designed (Armada E) the Intel compiler wasn't in the shape it is now. But now it is all there, it would be nice to get a new BIOS with an updated DSDT (even if it would be called Beta to avoid the certification cycle).

Sincerely,
Herbert.

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Cagle, John (ISS-Houston) [mailto:john.cagle-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2003 05:11
An: Darren Benham
Cc: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Betreff: RE: [ACPI] redhat comment about intel not taking patches?


Can you be more specific in your comments regarding Compaq hardware?  We
test our ProLiant servers with Linux and ACPI, and our BIOS is designed
for many different operating systems, including Linux, Unix and NetWare.
On the other hand, it is unreasonable to expect that our laptop and
desktop divisions test with Linux ACPI for two big reasons: first, the
Linux OS has a very small share of those markets, and second, Red Hat's
releases don't even have ACPI support.

Thanks,
John
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John Cagle     john.cagle-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org
Principal Member Technical Staff
   Industry Standard Servers
    Hewlett-Packard Company
    http://www.hp.com/linux
       jcagle-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Benham [mailto:dbenham-FG1iuTdj8bisTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:55 PM
To: acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [ACPI] redhat comment about intel not taking patches?


Is ACPI going to be able to go mainstream in any of the major 
releases w/o making some effort to work in non-standard BIOS 
(read, the BIOSes written directly for Windows)?  Is it ever 
likely that pressure would work against those Bios 
manufacturers that dont' follow spec?  I mean, Compaq is on 
the list of partners for ACPI and their DSDT's are crap, with 
asterisks in names and functions returning values that 
shouldn't, etc. Grover, Andrew said:

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From: Kevin Fenzi [mailto:kevin-+bl/7iUgRMUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org]
RedHat is playing with enabling ACPI in their next 

release. (At least 

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in the beta for the next release: phoebe).

Noticed this changelog comment in the phoebe kernel:

* Thu Nov 07 2002 Arjan van de Ven [off-list ref]
- - remove ACPI again because Intel is unwilling to take patches

What patches are they talking about?

Is there any way we could fix up the communication 

breakdown between 

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RedHat/Intel?

It would be great if ACPI would work out of the box on my 

laptop with 

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a RedHat kernel. At a minimum I guess it would require acpi to be 
able to detect the compaq *PNP stuff and remove the * so the table 
works.

I have been in contact with a number of distributions concerning 
inclusion of ACPI support. I think the new licensing and 

some recent 

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source improvements helped a lot to make people feel better about 
ACPI, but there still are a number of critical bugs that 

are affecting 

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a significant percentage of systems. These need to be fixed. These 
have to do with *any* ACPI-related oopses, failure to boot 

using ACPI, 

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and failure to shutdown cleanly.

ACPI is not going to be in the next RH release but we are really 
pushing to get it in subsequent releases, but we need to fix those 
critical bugs.

Regards -- Andy

-- 
Darren

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