Ort-merge: What does "ort" mean?

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Ort-merge: What does "ort" mean?

From: Kerry, Richard <hidden>
Date: 2021-02-24 10:12:59

It's now been quite a few weeks, probably months, since the "ort-merge" work has been going one.  However, I don't think I've ever seen an explanation of what "ort" means.  I know it means "place" in German, but that seems an unlikely usage because git project generally works in English.  I don't know of it as a word in English.  So maybe it's an acronym - ORT.  But what does that mean?

So, can someone please say what "ort" means?

Regards,
Richard.

Re: Ort-merge: What does "ort" mean?

From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <hidden>
Date: 2021-02-24 10:40:41

On Wed, Feb 24 2021, Kerry, Richard wrote:
It's now been quite a few weeks, probably months, since the "ort-merge" work has been going one.  However, I don't think I've ever seen an explanation of what "ort" means.  I know it means "place" in German, but that seems an unlikely usage because git project generally works in English.  I don't know of it as a word in English.  So maybe it's an acronym - ORT.  But what does that mean?

So, can someone please say what "ort" means?
$ head -n 3 merge-ort.c
/*
 * "Ostensibly Recursive's Twin" merge strategy, or "ort" for short.  Meant
 * as a drop-in replacement for the "recursive" merge strategy, allowing one

Re: Ort-merge: What does "ort" mean?

From: brian m. carlson <hidden>
Date: 2021-02-24 10:43:45

On 2021-02-24 at 10:05:12, Kerry, Richard wrote:
It's now been quite a few weeks, probably months, since the
"ort-merge" work has been going one.  However, I don't think I've ever
seen an explanation of what "ort" means.  I know it means "place" in
German, but that seems an unlikely usage because git project generally
works in English.  I don't know of it as a word in English.  So maybe
it's an acronym - ORT.  But what does that mean?

So, can someone please say what "ort" means?
I believe it's a joke.  One can use the -s option to control the
strategy, so you could write "git merge -sort" to use the new
implementation.
-- 
brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them)
Houston, Texas, US

Re: Ort-merge: What does "ort" mean?

From: Elijah Newren <hidden>
Date: 2021-02-24 19:22:25

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 5:13 AM brian m. carlson
[off-list ref] wrote:
On 2021-02-24 at 10:05:12, Kerry, Richard wrote:
quoted
It's now been quite a few weeks, probably months, since the
"ort-merge" work has been going one.  However, I don't think I've ever
seen an explanation of what "ort" means.  I know it means "place" in
German, but that seems an unlikely usage because git project generally
works in English.  I don't know of it as a word in English.  So maybe
it's an acronym - ORT.  But what does that mean?

So, can someone please say what "ort" means?
I believe it's a joke.  One can use the -s option to control the
strategy, so you could write "git merge -sort" to use the new
implementation.
It actually has meaning beyond being a joke, though:

$ head -n 15 merge-ort.c
/*
 * "Ostensibly Recursive's Twin" merge strategy, or "ort" for short.  Meant
 * as a drop-in replacement for the "recursive" merge strategy, allowing one
 * to replace
 *
 *   git merge [-s recursive]
 *
 * with
 *
 *   git merge -s ort
 *
 * Note: git's parser allows the space between '-s' and its argument to be
 * missing.  (Should I have backronymed "ham", "alsa", "kip", "nap, "alvo",
 * "cale", "peedy", or "ins" instead of "ort"?)
 */

However, I learned my lesson -- Eric is way better at coming up with
names than me[1] so if I need more names in the future, I'll ping him.
:-)

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAPig+cQ2e4NF6GhRvCTgt1KpPG5Lw_ybPM5FeWtmc69rxvXFuQ@mail.gmail.com/

Re: Ort-merge: What does "ort" mean?

From: Elijah Newren <hidden>
Date: 2021-02-24 19:28:57

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 2:17 AM Kerry, Richard [off-list ref] wrote:

It's now been quite a few weeks, probably months, since the "ort-merge" work has been going one.
Years, actually.  See
https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqk1ydkbx0.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com/;
you could argue the work started before that or after that point, but
it gives a rough estimate of how long work has been ongoing (with
several stops and starts along the way).
 However, I don't think I've ever seen an explanation of what "ort" means.  I know it means "place" in German, but that seems an unlikely usage because git project generally works in English.  I don't know of it as a word in English.  So maybe it's an acronym - ORT.  But what does that mean?

So, can someone please say what "ort" means?
Already responded down-thread so I won't repeat here.  :-)

Re: Ort-merge: What does "ort" mean?

From: Eric Sunshine <hidden>
Date: 2021-02-24 23:24:08

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 2:23 PM Elijah Newren [off-list ref] wrote:
It actually has meaning beyond being a joke, though:

 * Note: git's parser allows the space between '-s' and its argument to be
 * missing.  (Should I have backronymed "ham", "alsa", "kip", "nap, "alvo",
 * "cale", "peedy", or "ins" instead of "ort"?)
 */

However, I learned my lesson -- Eric is way better at coming up with
names than me[1] so if I need more names in the future, I'll ping him.
:-)
"Extended LInear Jump AHead" is still my favorite because it sounds
cool. However, I wouldn't sneeze at "UNiversally Systematic Heuristic
Iterative Newtonian Elliptic", which is probably a more apt
description of what you implemented, but I digress.
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