Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] i18n: add--interactive: mark strings for translation

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Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] i18n: add--interactive: mark strings for translation

From: Junio C Hamano <hidden>
Date: 2016-09-25 22:52:55

Vasco Almeida [off-list ref] writes:
quoted hunk
Mark simple strings (without interpolation) for translation.

Brackets around first parameter of ternary operator is necessary because
otherwise xgettext fails to extract strings marked for translation from
the rest of the file.

Signed-off-by: Vasco Almeida <redacted>
---
 git-add--interactive.perl | 68 +++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------------
 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)
diff --git a/git-add--interactive.perl b/git-add--interactive.perl
index 822f857..fb8e5de 100755
--- a/git-add--interactive.perl
+++ b/git-add--interactive.perl
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@ use 5.008;
 use strict;
 use warnings;
 use Git;
+use Git::I18N;
 
 binmode(STDOUT, ":raw");
 
@@ -252,7 +253,7 @@ sub list_untracked {
 }
 
 my $status_fmt = '%12s %12s %s';
-my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, 'staged', 'unstaged', 'path');
+my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, __('staged'), __('unstaged'), __('path'));
Wouldn't it make sense to allow translators to tweak $status_fmt if
you are allowing the earlier elements that are formatted with %12s,
as their translation may not fit within that width, in which case
they may want to make these columns wider?
 			prompt_yesno(
-				'Your edited hunk does not apply. Edit again '
-				. '(saying "no" discards!) [y/n]? '
+				# TRANSLATORS: do not translate [y/n]
+				# The program will only accept that input
+				# at this point.
+				__('Your edited hunk does not apply. Edit again '
+				   . '(saying "no" discards!) [y/n]? ')
Not just [y/n], but "no" in "saying no discards!" also needs to
stay, no?  I wonder if it is a good idea to lose the TRANSLATORS
comment by ejecting "[y/n]" outside the "__()" construct here.

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] i18n: add--interactive: mark strings for translation

From: Vasco Almeida <hidden>
Date: 2016-09-28 12:44:02

A Dom, 25-09-2016 às 15:52 -0700, Junio C Hamano escreveu:
quoted
@@ -252,7 +253,7 @@ sub list_untracked {
 }
 
 my $status_fmt = '%12s %12s %s';
-my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, 'staged', 'unstaged', 'path');
+my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, __('staged'), __('unstaged'), __('path'));
Wouldn't it make sense to allow translators to tweak $status_fmt if
you are allowing the earlier elements that are formatted with %12s,
as their translation may not fit within that width, in which case
they may want to make these columns wider?
As far as I understand, %12s means that the argument printed will have
a minimum length of 12 columns. So if the translation of 'stage' is
longer than 12 it will be printed fully no matter what. Though in that
case, the header will not be align correctly anymore:

my $status_fmt = '%12s %12s %s';

     123456789abcdefghijkl     unstaged caminho
  1:    unchanged        +1/-0 git-add--interactive.perl
  2:    unchanged  +4226/-3152 po/git.pot
  3:    unchanged +11542/-10426 po/pt_PT.po


my $status_fmt = '%12s %8s %s';

     123456789abcdefghijkl unstaged caminho
  1:    unchanged    +2/-1 git-add--interactive.perl
  2:    unchanged +4226/-3152 po/git.pot
  3:    unchanged +11542/-10426 po/pt_PT.po


For reference in C locale (my $status_fmt = '%12s %12s %s';)

           staged     unstaged path
  1:        +4/-4      nothing git-add--interactive.perl
  2:    unchanged  +4232/-3150 po/git.pot
  3:    unchanged +11572/-10448 po/pt_PT.po

I did not contemplate this issue before, but I think allowing a
translator to tweak $status_fmt would not be enough to properly align
the header if the translation is longer than 12 columns.

Maybe a lazy solution would be to add a TRANSLATOR: comment asking to
fit the translation of those words in 12 columns, but that would be
unpractical because 'stage' and 'unstage' can occur alone, like they do
here, in other place in the future, without having that length
restriction.

I think the real fix would be to find the longer column and use that
length for the remaining rows. I will try to do that if I can.


I also forgot to mark strings 'unchanged' and 'nothing' that are
displayed on that status. I will mark then in the next re-roll.
quoted
                      prompt_yesno(
-                             'Your edited hunk does not apply. Edit again '
-                             . '(saying "no" discards!) [y/n]? '
+                             # TRANSLATORS: do not translate [y/n]
+                             # The program will only accept that input
+                             # at this point.
+                             __('Your edited hunk does not apply. Edit again '
+                                . '(saying "no" discards!) [y/n]? ')
Not just [y/n], but "no" in "saying no discards!" also needs to
stay, no?  I wonder if it is a good idea to lose the TRANSLATORS
comment by ejecting "[y/n]" outside the "__()" construct here.
I fear that ejecting "[y/n]" would not be good for right-to-left
languages since "[y/n]" would be the first thing a user of those
languages would read followed by the actual question. I feel the same
for other instances of this in the present patch series.

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] i18n: add--interactive: mark strings for translation

From: Duy Nguyen <hidden>
Date: 2016-09-28 14:30:28

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Vasco Almeida [off-list ref] wrote:
A Dom, 25-09-2016 às 15:52 -0700, Junio C Hamano escreveu:
quoted
quoted
@@ -252,7 +253,7 @@ sub list_untracked {
 }

 my $status_fmt = '%12s %12s %s';
-my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, 'staged', 'unstaged', 'path');
+my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, __('staged'), __('unstaged'), __('path'));
Wouldn't it make sense to allow translators to tweak $status_fmt if
you are allowing the earlier elements that are formatted with %12s,
as their translation may not fit within that width, in which case
they may want to make these columns wider?
As far as I understand, %12s means that the argument printed will have
a minimum length of 12 columns. So if the translation of 'stage' is
longer than 12 it will be printed fully no matter what. Though in that
case, the header will not be align correctly anymore:
for other instances of this in the present patch series.
It's 12 bytes, not columns (unless perl understands input string's
encoding, which I doubt). Think about multi-byte encodings like utf-8,
where three letters (or "columns") do not necessary mean three bytes.
The result is most likely unaligned in that case.
-- 
Duy

Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] i18n: add--interactive: mark strings for translation

From: Jakub Narębski <hidden>
Date: 2016-09-29 21:22:07

W dniu 26.09.2016 o 00:52, Junio C Hamano pisze:
Vasco Almeida [off-list ref] writes: 
quoted
 my $status_fmt = '%12s %12s %s';
-my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, 'staged', 'unstaged', 'path');
+my $status_head = sprintf($status_fmt, __('staged'), __('unstaged'), __('path'));
Wouldn't it make sense to allow translators to tweak $status_fmt if
you are allowing the earlier elements that are formatted with %12s,
as their translation may not fit within that width, in which case
they may want to make these columns wider?
Perl's printf, sprintf, and format think all codepoints take up 1 print
column; also, without "use utf8;" they all think that one byte is one
codepoint (as it is in latin1 encoding).

Many codepoints can take 0 print columns (zero-width joiners), or 2
columns (so called wide characters).

The proper way to justify Unicode output is described e.g. in
http://www.perl.com/pub/2012/05/perlunicook-unicode-column-width-for-printing.html

  use Unicode::GCString;

  my $gcs  = Unicode::GCString->new($str);  # grapheme cluster string
  my $cols = $gcs->columns;
  my $pad  = " " x (12 - $cols);

  $status_head .= $str . $pad . " ";

Though we would need to provide fallback if there is no perl-i18n,
no extended Unicode support in Perl (also, if we are not using
gettext).


So it is even more complicated.
quoted
 			prompt_yesno(
-				'Your edited hunk does not apply. Edit again '
-				. '(saying "no" discards!) [y/n]? '
+				# TRANSLATORS: do not translate [y/n]
+				# The program will only accept that input
+				# at this point.
+				__('Your edited hunk does not apply. Edit again '
+				   . '(saying "no" discards!) [y/n]? ')
Not just [y/n], but "no" in "saying no discards!" also needs to
stay, no?  I wonder if it is a good idea to lose the TRANSLATORS
comment by ejecting "[y/n]" outside the "__()" construct here.
Actually the message to translators should also mention that if
the translation of "no" doesn't begin with 'n', then one needs
to say something like '(saying "n" for "no" discards!)'.

Best,
-- 
Jakub Narębski
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