Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.9.1

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.9.1

From: Junio C Hamano <hidden>
Date: 2016-07-12 16:25:15

Jeff King [off-list ref] writes:
In case it wasn't clear, I was mostly guessing there. So I dug a bit
further, and indeed, I am wrong. Linux never bumped to a 64-bit time_t
on i386 because of the ABI headaches.
X-< (yes, I knew).
That being said, I still think the "clamp to time_t" strategy is
reasonable. Unless you are doing something really exotic like pretending
to be from the future, nobody will care for 20 years.
Yup.  It is a minor regression for them to go from ulong to time_t,
because they didn't have to care for 90 years or so but now they do
in 20 years, I'd guess, but hopefully after that many years,
everybody's time_t would be sufficiently large.

I suspect Cobol programmers in the 50s would have said a similar
thing about the y2k timebomb they created back then, though ;-)
And at that point, systems with a 32-bit time_t are going to have
to do _something_, because time() is going to start returning
bogus values. So as long as we behave reasonably (e.g., clamping
values and not generating wrapped nonsense), I think that's a fine
solution.
OK.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.9.1

From: Johannes Schindelin <hidden>
Date: 2016-07-13 14:05:03

Hi,

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote:
Jeff King [off-list ref] writes:
quoted
In case it wasn't clear, I was mostly guessing there. So I dug a bit
further, and indeed, I am wrong. Linux never bumped to a 64-bit time_t
on i386 because of the ABI headaches.
X-< (yes, I knew).
quoted
That being said, I still think the "clamp to time_t" strategy is
reasonable. Unless you are doing something really exotic like pretending
to be from the future, nobody will care for 20 years.
Yup.  It is a minor regression for them to go from ulong to time_t,
because they didn't have to care for 90 years or so but now they do
in 20 years, I'd guess, but hopefully after that many years,
everybody's time_t would be sufficiently large.

I suspect Cobol programmers in the 50s would have said a similar
thing about the y2k timebomb they created back then, though ;-)
quoted
And at that point, systems with a 32-bit time_t are going to have
to do _something_, because time() is going to start returning
bogus values. So as long as we behave reasonably (e.g., clamping
values and not generating wrapped nonsense), I think that's a fine
solution.
OK.
I kept the unsigned long -> time_t conversion after reading the thread so
far.

Ciao,
Dscho
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