Re: [PATCH 0/4] remote-hg: more improvements

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Re: [PATCH 0/4] remote-hg: more improvements

From: David Kastrup <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 23:01:08

Felipe Contreras [off-list ref] writes:
Philippe Vaucher wrote:
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Do you feel Felipe is in control of what you label bad behavior?  Do you
feel you are in control over how you react to his behavior?
I feel that Felipe cannot control this (or decided not to),
I am pretty much in control of my behavior. Those who know me
personally know that I *never* get angry.
You are missing the point.  The point is not what effect your behavior
has on you but what it has on others.  As you are unable to attribute
feelings to others (like you appear unable to attribute reason to them),
you are unable to control it.

It's like repairing clockwork when your hands are numb and have never
been otherwise.

"When something does not work, apply extra force" does not work with
clockwork.  It does not work with people, either.
The problem is that what you label as "bad behavior" I do not.
It does not matter what you or others want to label it.  The effects are
there anyway.
So if somebody convinced me that my behavior is indeed bad, I would
certainly change it, but I do not think it's "bad".
What effect your behavior has on others is not dependent on what you
think about it.

If you convinced yourself to be standing perfectly balanced and find
yourself falling, there is no point in not catching yourself before
smashing your head open just because you _know_ you have been standing
perfectly upright.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: [PATCH 0/4] remote-hg: more improvements

From: Felipe Contreras <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 23:01:09

David Kastrup wrote:
Felipe Contreras [off-list ref] writes:
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Philippe Vaucher wrote:
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Do you feel Felipe is in control of what you label bad behavior?  Do you
feel you are in control over how you react to his behavior?
I feel that Felipe cannot control this (or decided not to),
I am pretty much in control of my behavior. Those who know me
personally know that I *never* get angry.
You are missing the point.  The point is not what effect your behavior
has on you but what it has on others.
If me saying "I do not believe in God" has a negative effect on Mark,
your answer seems to be "do not tell Mark the truth". If Mark was a
co-worker and I had no option but to interact with him, I would probably
do something along those lines if possible. But if Mark was a member of
an open source project, I do have an option and I'd rather tell it like
it is. If Mark has a problem with that, I can always avoid Mark, or just
leave the project (say if Mark was the maintainer).

In both cases Mark is wrong. I do understand that most people would
rather comprimise their beliefs in order to win penguing points. I'm
not that way.

If I can't speak my mind in an open source project where I'm
contributing my time *for free*, I do not want to be part of that
project. It's the project that's wrong, not me, and it's the project
that looses, not me.

-- 
Felipe Contreras
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