From: Junio C Hamano <hidden> Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:24
"John Dlugosz" [off-list ref] writes:
=== Re: ===
The answer was best only because in your previous question you wanted to
ensure fast-forwardness, i.e. "git push . origin/dev:dev" without plus
in
front to cause it to fail if it is not fast-forward.
=== end ===
This is offtopic, but *PLEASE* notice that nobody else quotes like this
around here. I find the style of quoting makes it unnecessarily harder to
skip over parts that others wrote (and I've already read---so I do not
want to waste my time on re-reading them) to get to what you are adding to
the discussion quickly, and extremely annoying. It is the reason why I am
skipping many of your replies to other people without reading to the end,
even when I suspect you might be saying something worth reading.
No, I don't want to ensure ff.
I was referring to the exchange that started with this message from you:
From: "John Dlugosz" <redacted>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:04:25 -0500
Message-ID: [off-list ref]
where you asked:
I want to advocate running
git fetch
as being a safe thing to do at any time, just to refresh your view of
the origin and not mess up any of your local labels. That is, you can
see the difference between the local dev and the origin/dev.
So, after inspecting the changes, how do you fast-forward your local dev
to sync up with origin/dev?
and I gave you an answer (with a typo you corrected in another message
today) "git push . origin/dev:dev". In that context, you clearly want to
encure fast-forward, and local push without + is an easy and safe way to
do so.
That is where "it is best only because" came from. If you are not
interested in ensuring fast-forward, "local push" may not be best, and
there are other ways (I've shown you at least two, so I won't repeat
them) to choose from.
From: John Dlugosz <hidden> Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:24
If you can tell me how to make Outlook insert >'s in front of a block of
text, I'm all ears. I can't find any kind of "quote content" or "paste
as quotation" on the menus, or any option to do anything with the
original message other than to put it at the end with ---original
message--- in front of it. This was the best I could figure out that
was useful, and gets replies threaded (mostly) properly. While you're
at it, how do you tell Outlook to always start a message in "plain text"
(not HTML) based on the target address, like Thunderbird does?
Alternatively, tell me how to reply using the Gmane web viewer, or point
me to another web-based viewer that shows current content.
Or, the mailing list server could translate Outlook's visible
interspersed quotes (the original message is blue, new typing is black)
with a uniform quote style that is specified in each subscriber's
preference settings.
Could be worse. Ever use Lotus Notes?
--John
-----Original Message-----
From: Junio C Hamano [mailto:gitster@pobox.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:11 PM
To: John Dlugosz
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: undoing something
"John Dlugosz" [off-list ref] writes:
=== Re: ===
The answer was best only because in your previous question you wanted
to
ensure fast-forwardness, i.e. "git push . origin/dev:dev" without plus
in
front to cause it to fail if it is not fast-forward.
=== end ===
This is offtopic, but *PLEASE* notice that nobody else quotes like this
around here. I find the style of quoting makes it unnecessarily harder
to
skip over parts that others wrote (and I've already read---so I do not
want to waste my time on re-reading them) to get to what you are adding
to
the discussion quickly, and extremely annoying. It is the reason why I
am
skipping many of your replies to other people without reading to the
end,
even when I suspect you might be saying something worth reading.
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From: René Scharfe <hidden> Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:24
John Dlugosz schrieb:
If you can tell me how to make Outlook insert >'s in front of a block
of text, I'm all ears. I can't find any kind of "quote content" or
"paste as quotation" on the menus, or any option to do anything with
the original message other than to put it at the end with ---original
message--- in front of it. This was the best I could figure out
that was useful, and gets replies threaded (mostly) properly.
Tools -> Options -> Preferences -> E-mail Options, set "When replying to
a message" to "Prefix each line of the original message".
While you're at it, how do you tell Outlook to always start a message
in "plain text" (not HTML) based on the target address, like
Thunderbird does?
Tools -> Options -> Mail Format, set "Compose in this message format" to
"Plain Text".
Alternatively, tell me how to reply using the Gmane web viewer, or
point me to another web-based viewer that shows current content.
No idea. But why not use a real mail user agent?
Or, the mailing list server could translate Outlook's visible
interspersed quotes (the original message is blue, new typing is
black) with a uniform quote style that is specified in each
subscriber's preference settings.
Avoiding garbage is better than converting it to something useful. If
someone wrote an Outlook mail sanitizer, I'd probably use it at work,
too, though.
Could be worse. Ever use Lotus Notes?
Yes, long ago, and thankfully I don't remember much about it. There's
always a way to do worse -- that's small comfort.
René
From: John Dlugosz <hidden> Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:24
Tools -> Options -> Preferences -> E-mail Options, set "When replying
to
a message" to "Prefix each line of the original message".
That worked. Thanks.
No idea. But why not use a real mail user agent?
Because I'm using git for work, on work time, so I'm using the work computer. It uses "exchange" instead of a real mail server. Perhaps there are better mailers that work with Exchange, but it might not do everything the "groupware" stuff does, and that would affect the team interaction. Also, there is a matter of "group policy" which means I'm not in full control of my own machine.
The web is barely usable from here, too. The censor is set up, I guess, to stop ordinary desktop users like secretaries and accountants from doing anything to their machine, so the very things I'm interested in -- Windows tools, development topics, anything under ftp: -- is blocked !
--John
(now if the list mailer could strip off that footer that's longer than some of my postings...)
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From: John Dlugosz <hidden> Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:24
No NNTP access, and webmail is expressly forbidden. Actually, any URL that looks like it might be a web mail account is blocked.
I'm using NNTP when at home, on the weekend or whatever. It makes it easier to reply in-thread. And I'm using Thunderbird.
--John
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Soffian [mailto:jaysoffian@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:21 PM
To: John Dlugosz
Cc: Junio C Hamano; git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Effective Posting
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, John Dlugosz
[off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
Alternatively, tell me how to reply using the Gmane web viewer
Gmane accepts submissions via NNTP. Thunderbird is a capable NNTP
client.
quoted
or point me to another web-based viewer that shows current content.
Perhaps sign up for a <insert favorite webmail provider here, mine is
gmail> account?
But, this is seriously off-topic for this list, me thinks.
j.
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