Re: FETCH_HEAD question

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Re: FETCH_HEAD question

From: Junio C Hamano <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:13

Jay Soffian [off-list ref] writes:
So then, why does "git merge FETCH_HEAD" bother to strip out a
not-for-merge marker that wouldn't be there?
In general, FETCH_HEAD is usable as an extended SHA-1, in that any file
that is in .git/ and begins with [0-9a-f]{40} names that object.  That is
how "git log -p ..FETCH_HEAD" in my example worked.

The reason stripping of not-for-merge is done is to support a usage that
is not so sane as well.

You can do a wildcard fetch that leaves full of not-for-merge entries in
FETCH_HEAD, and then use FETCH_HEAD as an extended SHA-1 to merge the one
that happens to be on the first line.  "git merge" *could* in such a case
produce:

	Merge commit $ugly_40_hexadecimal_name

to say that it merged that commit named by a random extended SHA-1, but it
knows that FETCH_HEAD has better information than that.  The line tells
where you got that commit from.  And that is recorded past not-for-merge
marker (if exists, otherwise it is an empty string) that is enclosed by a
HT on each side.  This is a direct translation from the scripted version
that did:

	sed -e 's/	not-for-merge	/		/' -e 1q

It is being overly nice to produce a sensible merge message, even when you
asked it to do something not very sensible.

Now to something totally useless.

After reading the builtin-merge.c and original git-merge.sh (now in
contrib/examples) script, I think it could have done something entirely
different.

It could have done this instead.

	sed -e '/	not-for-merge	/d'

to learn the commits and their human-readable origins, and it could have
tried to reproduce what "git pull" did when it invoked git-merge using
that information.  Then you could use this workflow:

	$ git pull <possibly with arguments>
        ... oops, conflicted and is very messy.
        ... I tried to resolve, but failed and made the mess even worse.
        ... Let's start over.
        $ git reset --hard
        ... FETCH_HEAD knows which refs are for merging
        $ git merge FETCH_HEAD

That is, no matter what the arguments were for the initial "git pull",
what should be merged is recorded in FETCH_HEAD, and that is how you can
retry the merge without refetching over the network.

But such a change makes FETCH_HEAD different from what it traditionally
meant, and does that only to "git merge", making the result very
inconsistent.  For example, "git log ..FETCH_HEAD" will still use the
object name on the first line, and it won't be a way to convince yourself
that the changes are sensible and it is Ok to run "git merge FETCH_HEAD"
anymore.  So I do not think such a change will be an improvement.

Re: FETCH_HEAD question

From: Jay Soffian <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:13

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Junio C Hamano [off-list ref] wrote:
Now to something totally useless.

After reading the builtin-merge.c and original git-merge.sh (now in
contrib/examples) script, I think it could have done something entirely
different.

It could have done this instead.

       sed -e '/       not-for-merge   /d'

to learn the commits and their human-readable origins, and it could have
tried to reproduce what "git pull" did when it invoked git-merge using
that information.  Then you could use this workflow:

       $ git pull <possibly with arguments>
       ... oops, conflicted and is very messy.
       ... I tried to resolve, but failed and made the mess even worse.
       ... Let's start over.
       $ git reset --hard
       ... FETCH_HEAD knows which refs are for merging
       $ git merge FETCH_HEAD

That is, no matter what the arguments were for the initial "git pull",
what should be merged is recorded in FETCH_HEAD, and that is how you can
retry the merge without refetching over the network.

But such a change makes FETCH_HEAD different from what it traditionally
meant, and does that only to "git merge", making the result very
inconsistent.  For example, "git log ..FETCH_HEAD" will still use the
object name on the first line, and it won't be a way to convince yourself
that the changes are sensible and it is Ok to run "git merge FETCH_HEAD"
anymore.  So I do not think such a change will be an improvement.
Unless dwim_ref() is updated to handle FETCH_HEAD specially, and
return not the first SHA1, but the one not marked "not-for-merge".
Then the UI would at least be consistent, but this would not be
backward compatible.

j.

Re: FETCH_HEAD question

From: Johannes Schindelin <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:13

Hi,

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jay Soffian wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Junio C Hamano [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
Now to something totally useless.

After reading the builtin-merge.c and original git-merge.sh (now in
contrib/examples) script, I think it could have done something entirely
different.

It could have done this instead.

       sed -e '/       not-for-merge   /d'

to learn the commits and their human-readable origins, and it could have
tried to reproduce what "git pull" did when it invoked git-merge using
that information.  Then you could use this workflow:

       $ git pull <possibly with arguments>
       ... oops, conflicted and is very messy.
       ... I tried to resolve, but failed and made the mess even worse.
       ... Let's start over.
       $ git reset --hard
       ... FETCH_HEAD knows which refs are for merging
       $ git merge FETCH_HEAD

That is, no matter what the arguments were for the initial "git pull",
what should be merged is recorded in FETCH_HEAD, and that is how you can
retry the merge without refetching over the network.

But such a change makes FETCH_HEAD different from what it traditionally
meant, and does that only to "git merge", making the result very
inconsistent.  For example, "git log ..FETCH_HEAD" will still use the
object name on the first line, and it won't be a way to convince yourself
that the changes are sensible and it is Ok to run "git merge FETCH_HEAD"
anymore.  So I do not think such a change will be an improvement.
Unless dwim_ref() is updated to handle FETCH_HEAD specially, and
return not the first SHA1, but the one not marked "not-for-merge".
Then the UI would at least be consistent, but this would not be
backward compatible.
You cannot fix parsing FETCH_HEAD as a ref (and neither will you be able 
to do with PUSH_HEAD), as it can contain _more_ than one SHA-1s.  This 
still holds true when ignoring the not-for-merge lines, as an octopus is
a quite real possibility.

Ciao,
Dscho

Re: FETCH_HEAD question

From: Jay Soffian <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:13

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Johannes Schindelin
[off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
Unless dwim_ref() is updated to handle FETCH_HEAD specially, and
return not the first SHA1, but the one not marked "not-for-merge".
Then the UI would at least be consistent, but this would not be
backward compatible.
You cannot fix parsing FETCH_HEAD as a ref (and neither will you be able
to do with PUSH_HEAD), as it can contain _more_ than one SHA-1s.  This
still holds true when ignoring the not-for-merge lines, as an octopus is
a quite real possibility.
An even better argument against than it not being backward compatible. :-)

And there is no PUSH_HEAD.

j.

PUSH_HEAD, was Re: FETCH_HEAD question

From: Johannes Schindelin <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:46:13

Hi,

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jay Soffian wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Johannes Schindelin
[off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
quoted
Unless dwim_ref() is updated to handle FETCH_HEAD specially, and
return not the first SHA1, but the one not marked "not-for-merge".
Then the UI would at least be consistent, but this would not be
backward compatible.
You cannot fix parsing FETCH_HEAD as a ref (and neither will you be able
to do with PUSH_HEAD), as it can contain _more_ than one SHA-1s.  This
still holds true when ignoring the not-for-merge lines, as an octopus is
a quite real possibility.
An even better argument against than it not being backward compatible. :-)

And there is no PUSH_HEAD.
Heh, that's why I used the future tense :-)

Ciao,
Dscho
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