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"Tarmigan" == Tarmigan [off-list ref] writes:
Tarmigan> ZFS on OSX may just default to "insensitive" and some form of
Tarmigan> normalization especially if they were/are thinking about making it the
Tarmigan> default fs and wanted backwards compatibility for broken apps.
Tarmigan> Randal, can you make a new FS with casesensitivity=sensitive and
Tarmigan> normalization=none and see how it behaves?
As I posted in a followup, without twiddling anything, ZFS on OSX
is case *sensitive*, but apparently still "normalizes", which is causing
the trip-up. I'll look to see if there are any parameters I can tweak
to keep it from doing that, but I doubt it.
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On Mon, 5 May 2008, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
As I posted in a followup, without twiddling anything, ZFS on OSX
is case *sensitive*, but apparently still "normalizes", which is causing
the trip-up. I'll look to see if there are any parameters I can tweak
to keep it from doing that, but I doubt it.
Well, the good news is that while the utf-8 normalization is crazy, you're
pretty unlikely to actually hit it in practice. The git archive has the
Märchen file on purpose to find these kinds of issues, but it's harmless
appart from the annoyance.
Yes, some projects will have i18n support that may have files with special
characters on purpose, and they can cause problems. Not least exactly
because OS X does all the normalization exactly the wrong way (ie it chose
the _unusual_ way to do things, expanding strings to their longest format
rather than their shortest format), but I would expect it to be very rare
in general, partly because it doesn't really matter what SCM you use to
track things, and you'll have similar issues if you ever develop anything
across OS's.
We can fix it. Junio hasn't merged my stupid infrastructure into core git
yet, and I still don't really care enough or have a OS X box to test on
(I've got a couple of mac minis, but they run that other OS ;), but we'll
get the insane OS X crap handled *some* day.
Linus
Hi,
On Mon, 5 May 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
We can fix it. Junio hasn't merged my stupid infrastructure into core
git yet, and I still don't really care enough or have a OS X box to test
on (I've got a couple of mac minis, but they run that other OS ;), but
we'll get the insane OS X crap handled *some* day.
FWIW I think you can reproduce on Linux. AFAIR there is some code in the
hfs or hfsplus modules to perform the same UTF-8 normalization.
Ciao,
Dscho