Re: GIT vs Other: Need argument

Hi Marcin,

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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Marcin Kasperski wrote:

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a) Windows are unsupported

Wrong.

He he, I even downloaded minGW version, just to find that git-pull is 
bash script...

So what? Do you think a Python program is a native Windows application?

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b) Learning curve is too steep. Unclear relationship git-vs-cogito 
makes it even worse.

Not so wrong. But then, it is clear that git is git is git. If you 
find it too complicated, soon enough somebody says "use cogito 
instead" and you'll find out about that.

As I already said: cogito at the moment does not make life easier, but 
only confuses. Also, we talked about windows in previous sentence, 
cogito is a bunch of shell scripts...

Again, so what?

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I mean, you can do with CVS, SVN, HG, etc. almost the same as with 
Git. But with Git, I find it faster and easier. BTW much of that does 
come from the scriptable nature of Git. It _is_ much easier to write a 
short and simple script than to work on a plugin.

That's double edged sword. The more useful shell scripts, the more 
unportable tool.

Wrong.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Shell runs on more machines than Python, for example. 
And if you do not use things like bash arrays, scripts are _perfectly_ 
portable.

It's the same as with HTML. If you really want to make life hard on users, 
you can make it unportable. Alas, that's what most web designers in their 
infinite wisdom do.

Besides, it is not the length of a shell script which makes it unportable. 
For example, some aspects of cogito scripts prevented me from using it. So 
much that I gave up on it.

There are other reasons to prefer C over shell, performance comes to mind.

Ciao,
Dscho

(I am not trying to make flame-war, so I restrict to 

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He he, I even downloaded minGW version, just to find that git-pull is 
bash script...

So what? Do you think a Python program is a native Windows application?

Who cares... Mercurial binary build distributes hg as .exe (made by
py2exe or some other converter). The net point is that when I type 'hg'
in windows console, I get running mercurial. When I type 'git-pull' I
get error.

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That's double edged sword. The more useful shell scripts, the more 
unportable tool.

Wrong.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Shell runs on more machines than Python, for example. 
And if you do not use things like bash arrays, scripts are _perfectly_ 
portable.

Hmm. At the moment I am using more or less frequently: Debian Linux,
Tru64 Unix, OpenVMS, Windows XP. Python works well on all of those.
Shell scripts work on the first one and partially on the second one.

(yesss, I tried using Cygwin, this is NOT the way to go)

Hi,

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Marcin Kasperski wrote:

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And if you do not use things like bash arrays, scripts are _perfectly_ 
portable.

Hmm. At the moment I am using more or less frequently: Debian Linux,
Tru64 Unix, OpenVMS, Windows XP. Python works well on all of those.
Shell scripts work on the first one and partially on the second one.

(yesss, I tried using Cygwin, this is NOT the way to go)

Heh, without an explanation as to why, this sure sounds like an invitation 
to a very flamy war.

Ciao,
Dscho